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To: Solon who wrote (8349)	3/13/2001 6:28:00 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

"I don't know;" One of the most believable comments I've seen you make. Does the tide require your awareness to come to the shore? Does the earth require your awareness to circle the sun? Irrelevant to the current topic.

To: Solon who wrote (8349)	3/13/2001 6:29:57 PM
From: one_less	Respond to of 82486

"Does the tide require your awareness to come to the shore? Does the earth require your awareness to circle the sun?" These are physical phenomenon that are observable. The current topic is "time," which is not a physical entity, show me future.

To: Solon who wrote (8349)	3/13/2001 6:42:55 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

"How is there a future, when there is no one to give thought of the future?" "I don't know;..." Ok, Ok, you seem to have stopped your silly GGGGing for now, so I'll give you a hint. The key word in the statement "How is there a future, when there is no one to give thought of the future?" is "is". There "is" a future but it always and only exists in the present. So, it becomes a "present future". It is a real part of our ability to think about things in the present....same with past. We are stuck with a "present future" and a "present past" during our temporal existense as a tool for making sense out of the temporal universe. You, however, can never "be" in the past or in the future. So, you can't prove anything but an ongoing present.