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To: cfimx who wrote (41986)3/13/2001 11:47:48 PM
From: paul  Respond to of 64865
 
Twister...." java is irrelevant..because i say it is...d*mnit!!!"

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well, OK ...java's not a religion, but its important technology..ok, does that satisfy you?



To: cfimx who wrote (41986)3/14/2001 12:30:59 AM
From: QwikSand  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 64865
 
java is irrelevant today, much as a p/e ratio was 12 months ago. java will STAY irrelevant though.

Not sure what this is based on. Go to the NYPL or check the web and look through the computer science curricula in some current undergraduate catalogs. You'll see plenty of Unix. You'll see plenty of Java. You'll see zero Windows programming or anything else to do with Microsoft. The kids use their windows laptops to telnet into a Linux or Sun box and write their lesson programs. Their campus mail clients, which used to be Outlook Express, are now various forms of web mail. Lots of them dump Windows off their laptops entirely and replace it with Linux. Plenty of non-majors take Java programming classes just to learn programming. Zero non-majors take Windows programming: the professors won't teach kids something that's designed all wrong. I can't help but wonder how what they're teaching half the college students in the country is irrelevant.

I checked Monster.com and did a nationwide search using job category "computer software" and single keyword "Java". The only thing it told me about the number of listings found was "greater than 1,000".

Java may be irrelevant to YOU. It's not irrelevant for someone who wants to work as a programmer.

--QS