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Pastimes : Boxing: The Sweet Science -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Quahog who wrote (2112)	3/14/2001 4:52:03 PM
From: LPS5	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 10489

Qua, As always, you make some great points. Holyfield deserved some retaliation for his headbutting, but a smart fighter would have made it something that would slow Holyfield down a bit, like an elbow, or a blow to the sciatic nerve, or a headbutt, or a low blow. The headbutt is the easiest to mask and, second to the low blow, potentially the most devastating. I agree completely that Mike chose a ridiculous way to retailate, even if just from a pragmatic point of view. That's my problem with Mike (in the ring), he is not a smart fighter; he's an animal. He is entertaining to watch, much in the same way as it might be entertaining to see someone try to wrestle a polar bear. Mike can probably beat EVERY OTHER BOXER that is alive right now, but then again, so could the polar bear. That's so lucent, and rings so close to home, I'm embarrassed :) So true. I think a mitigating factor with regard to my being a fan of his is that I always correct people who refer to him as my favorite "boxer" by letting them know that Tyson is, in fact, my favorite "fighter." I mean, jeez - when was the last time Mike Tyson threw a jab? On the other hand, I strongly refute that his fights amount to a "puncher's chance." He's got hooks, crosses, and uppercuts, and uses both hands well. He is not a Tua, by any measure. We will have to disagree on Subway Bernie, much for the same reason...Bernie crossed the line once...he walked up to one of them he had already shot...and said something like, "You look like you could use another." [bang]. I never heard that part of it. That changes my perspective. I remember him saying, "The only reason why I stopped shooting is because I ran out of bullets," but I don't remember hearing the part of it that you've related. That's a different story. And to anyone who might argue that once the gauntlet is pulled, there are no limits, I'd say this: if you've been in the military, and more importantly been in the infantry - whether Army or Marines - you're aware of similar concepts whereby shooting the enemy walking in one direction is part of the mission, but if you miss someone, turn 180 degrees, and go back to shoot them - even if you're one foot past them, one second later - it's murder, and you'll spend your life in Leavenworth. Great points, Quahog. Thanks - LPS5