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To: Warpfactor who wrote (1654)3/14/2001 10:53:29 PM
From: Archie Meeties  Respond to of 23153
 
It's a sad day when the only way one can entice kids to go to school is to offer them cash. Grotesque.

On the other hand, such a blatant example of the impoverishment of education may plant the seeds of genuine revolt in young minds - and that we can all agree is good. -g-



To: Warpfactor who wrote (1654)3/14/2001 11:52:44 PM
From: Don England  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 23153
 
warp,

my god, this is not a thread you want to ignore for 3 days! it's like watching the chinese play ping-pong when you come back.

you did a stand up job on the hays' prognostications!!! let me congratulate you. i must say that i am still sticking with him, but he has certainly moved armageddon, and associated rites, up from june to right now. i have to say, though, that i wasn't hurt by his off-timing. trailing stops may be the first proof-of-god that i have seen in my lifetime. am out of all but a few k loily, which msdw won't allow stops on. they are, to put it mildly, such shits. after they added the $30k to my acct. on fri. they stole all my cash on sat. i really hate 'em. today they actually seem to have their software back in order and are showing my actual balance. i lost a couple k in hitting stops, but what a tremendous relief to be cash and bonds.

love these prices and am holding myself back from buying anything by getting on chuckles-kubota and heading into the canyon-bottom to collect rocks for my latest wall. that is therapy for you. when rocks stack like they were born to be together you have found a piece of heaven.

i saw that jpm, i think, has suspended credit to jap. banks. gold tanked, again!, on a boe auction. all hell is breaking loose. if you guys would just quit being such eternal optimists we might find a bottom here. ha! ha! i think there is pure hell ahead for the remaining head-in-the-sand bulls. maybe not right away. but it is coming. i would consider opening a soup kitchen, but who wants to feed 'yotes and javelinas? did i tell you my theory of the universe? kindness is the greatest good, and one we all too often are remiss in performing - self included.

electrician came today and installed all the wiring for the new on-demand hot water heater, etc. don't tell the inspector-general, but we now have 5 (FIVE!) 240 circuits on a 100 amp box. just have to remember not to weld and shower at the same time, or bake and dry, ect. the permutations are endless. got to love the high desert where gov't. interference is generally seen as exactly that. now taking volunteers for the first all-democrat militia.

don

p.s. ever look at the hitching on a troika? rumor has it that since the 3 horses are not all facing forward, only the middle horse pulled the sleigh and the outside two, hitched at angles, fought off the wolves as they ran. i have sgt. rock and hannah the hound hitched right and left of me.



To: Warpfactor who wrote (1654)3/15/2001 2:17:14 AM
From: cnyndwllr  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 23153
 
Warpfactor, never have registered as a democrat so might not be one of the bright ones whose opinions you seek. That said, I think it's not a policy that I would favor. It seems too much like taking something that should be valued as a privilege and turning it around so that it looks like someone else is responsible for getting us educated. We do give scholarships and grants to post high school students so maybe the principle is not unique, but it does feel wrong. I'm glad to see educators trying to color outside the lines but I don't like this painting.

In spite of that I have to say, in keeping with liberal thinking, that 5 bucks is poor pay. 10 bucks, especially for hard subjects, is more like it. 5 For sex education might be OK.

As I type nas futures are up 40+ and S&P are up 9+. Will there be some breathing room tomorrow? I was out most of the day and missed all of the excitement. Good luck to all. Ed



To: Warpfactor who wrote (1654)3/15/2001 10:42:22 AM
From: que seria  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 23153
 
OT Warpfactor:

No surprise that government should both make and abortively attempt to clean up its own messes of crucial social structures. Government has pioneered such counter-intuitive programs as paying young single women for having babies, and paying them to eliminate babies already on the way. It's taking the same reactive but never self-questioning approach to education here, confusing efficacy with morality and assuring neither.

I don't question the good intent of the progenitors of this pay 'em to learn plan. However, being in government, they probably resist the truth that government can't buy desire, independence, or achievement for people, nor constructively shape the human spirit with bribery. Bureaucrats could address the conditions that keep kids out of schools, but that would threaten their own sinecures and put them outside the Democrat tent.

This is just another program that is inefficacious because it is immoral (morality in the Aristotelian sense). We need a new national resolution--something like "Government: don't go there."

OK, so I'm no Democrat. Sorry. But I'm no Republican either. Just had some java and couldn't stop myself.