To: Berney who wrote (9265 ) 3/15/2001 7:10:36 AM From: Jurgen Trautmann Respond to of 11051 TB is asking... "remember the times" "who remembers Osbourn or Tanden" At the great time of Osborne's unforgettable "portables" I owned a Olivetti desktop with 2 256kb 5 1/4" floppydisk and 64 kB ram - however, olivetti-basic could only address 32kB, at this time I wrote my first textprocessing-software with differnt fonts, bold, italic and underscore. This unit of pure intelligence used the first available 16-bit-CPU. Of course I owned Sinclair, Atari and Commodore before... From Tandem came our first AT - we built a network (peer-to-peer) around this AT and sold that to a architect; I remember that I layed in my bathtub when the customer called and ordered. More or less this was the start of my computer-company. It was a good environment for small companies: importing parts from ROC, assembling that and making run the whole shame you could earn fair money. At this time US brandware was extremly expensive and frequently badly constructed; do you remember that IBM's PC's had problems with their harddisk-drives and serial-ports for a long while? Eventually great German chain-stores jumped in the market: we had to close our business and customers needed to make our work themselves from now on. Till today this seems to be a great problem for small and middle companies - they cannot afford own IT-compartments and well working IT-services are hard to find. A part of the "American Way" (unfortunately on a "global" globe that nevertheless still have to be globalized by us this sad way is not limited to US): concentration forces concentration. Units are getting larger and larger. Production-volumes increase with no end. Nearly every product seems to get achievable to quite anybody. But just a few products really help their owners sparing time (under the line) nor even improving their lifes really. Once I explained that principle this way: When you have to go by car a full day in a suburban-market for buying a bottle opener, when you find there 5 meters of shelves offering bottle-openers in every design, every color, every price-range, when you must buy a set of 5 bottle-openers because that's cheaper than one single, when you have to file several forms for getting membercards for getting a fair price, when you finally come home thirsty and tired and WHEN each of this five great products is not able to open your bottle... ...then you either are in US or in a developed US-type economy elsewhere. First we lost the air; then the water - now the food. At last we're going to lose our money: who cares? ggg Jury