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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: E who wrote (8630)	3/15/2001 11:29:06 AM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

Most of those who sheltered Jews fleeing the Nazis were motivated by religious belief. The initiative for closing down the transatlantic slave trade came from Methodists. John Brown was a Baptist. For every person who used religion as an excuse for self- aggrandizement, there were probably a hundred or more motivated to acts of charity, teaching the poor, running hospitals, opening orphanages, starting soup kitchens. Decrying conviction without reference to content is a dubious exercise. For the other, you may as well be decrying those damned abolitionists, who were so convinced of the evil of slavery they were willing to ruin people by taking away their slaves, that is about how substantive the argument you are making is.......

To: E who wrote (8630)	3/15/2001 4:53:50 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Clearly that "certainty" doesn't make them "better" people. If anything is obvious about the ohsoverycertain, it is that they are capable of great brutality. Civilized Americans who believe in the Bill of Rights, for example, believe, because of their "certainty," that all American women should be forced by the state to gestate zygotes to term. Civliized Americans who belive in protecting and helping the weak and the poor, kill unborn humans, not just at the zygote stage but at any stage of pregnancy. Tim