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To: Win Smith who wrote (8766)	3/15/2001 8:19:48 PM
From: cosmicforce	Respond to of 82486

It sounds better when he says it. What was that baby, potential human? I didn't hear you. [Edit: prediction here that there will be an extention to mutes and mentally retarded]. To be honest though, the idea of abortion should be repellent to all who care at all about life. It is not a good or pleasant form of BC. If one has an abortion, I don't think many people suggest a "wait and see" attitude.

To: Win Smith who wrote (8766)	3/16/2001 1:20:16 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Calling a zygote an "innocent human life" is a religious position. The zygotes don't have much of an opinion one way or the other, by most conventional definitions of "opinion". Main Entry: 1re.li.gious Pronunciation: ri-'li-j&s Function: adjective Etymology: Middle English, from Old French religieus, from Latin religiosus, from religio Date: 13th century 1 : relating to or manifesting faithful devotion to an acknowledged ultimate reality or deity 2 : of, relating to, or devoted to religious beliefs or observances 3 a : scrupulously and conscientiously faithful b : FERVENT, ZEALOUS - re.li.gious.ly adverb - re.li.gious.ness noun Main Entry: 2religious Function: noun Etymology: Middle English, from Old French religieus, from religieus, adjective Date: 13th century Inflected Form(s): plural religious : a member of a religious order under monastic vows My belief on this is not faith in a deity, nor is it related to religious observance. I'm not sure you could say that I am scrupulously faithful and fervent about it, but even assuming I am, is it your contention that any idea that is held fervently by someone should automatically be exclude from political consideration? I assure you that I am not a member of a religious order under monastic vows so that definition does not apply. The zygote is innocent and it is human and is is alive. It is dependent on its mother but it is not part of the mother. All of this has nothing to do with religion. Also we are not just talking about zygotes. Would you contend that a fetus at 8 and one half months is not an "innocent human life"? Tim