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To: Eclectus who wrote (66076)	3/18/2001 10:49:14 PM
From: IngotWeTrust	Respond to of 116921

Oh, POSH, elective. People are always trying to make something complicated out of things that are simple, and then inevitably accuse people with whom they don't agree as "not understanding" whatEVER the ubiquitous "it" is...and in your case, I'm being accused of not "understanding politics." Let me make it simple for you, elective Let's start by ...let's take the subject of gold: It's a metal, it comes from the ground originally, it has multiple uses, it is enduring, it is visceral. It has a "price on its head." Real simple stuff. Now let's take politics: Politics is about power. Some people have power, and other people want it. As Gary Zukov says, there is authentic power, something we should all aspire to possess and utilize. By arguing that postulate, that presumes there is also "non-authentic power, i.e., "false power.." Political power, while it can be felt and abused and/or harnessed, is NON-authentic power...it is wielded upon unwilling as well as unwitting and unknowning. That's NOT authentic power, that's abuse...and abuse is NOT good politics, now is it? Abuse is ALL about power. But it is still false, NON-authentic power. The greatest power on earth is LOVE. And the greatest exercise of AUTHENTIC POWER is: freedom of choice. So, elective, politics is also simple...and very understandable, even tho' it is one of the more ignominious exhibits for the defendents thereof. There is NO refuting Bushie Jr is a VETERAN politican, both in the liar category as well as the farce category. There is no refuting Bushie Jr has whatever NON-authentic political power he is constitutionally afforded. There is no refuting Bushie Jr has already abused his power and lied to the people, and had many years of practice in Texas politics and at the "knee of his CIA and now former Prez-Daddy Bush Sr.. Now, to where non-authentic power, authentic power, and gold coverge... I'm not the only miner out here vocal about Bushie not reversing the land grab of Clinton. Just because one politician is trying to outdo, or in this case, mouth "undo-ing" platitudes and filing deadline postponements, doesn't make Bush, a powerful politician, an upright guy or even a person with authentic power. It just makes him a NON-authentically powerful individual in an influential [ergo] power---full position. Yes, Gold is Simple. Yes, Politics is Simple. However, playing politics with gold is NOT simple. Neither is playing politics with land containing gold, and coal, and iron, and copper, and limestone, and... and... and...that is NOT simple, and the basic reason why this thread's posts number in the 65, 000s of attempts to untangle the "non-simple." And that, elective, is the SIMPLE & AUTHENTIC TRUTH regarding gold and politics and power. gold_tutor

To: Eclectus who wrote (66076)	4/29/2001 9:44:57 PM
From: long-gone	Respond to of 116921

From FoxNews Bush Suspends Another Clinton Midnight Regulation Saturday, April 28, 2001 Email this Article WASHINGTON — Agriculture Secretary Ann Veneman has agreed to review Clinton-era regulations that directed forest managers to put ecosystem health above all other concerns. The rules, issued in November, limited logging, skiing, hiking and other activities in national forests if forest managers believe those activities might permanently harm the ecosystem. "This is a solid decision on a rule that was impossible to implement, overly complex, burdensome and expensive," said Idaho Sen. Larry Craig, chairman of the Senate subcommittee that oversees forests. "Secretary Veneman's decision to revise these regulations is to be applauded." A Forest Service report concluded that the rules were impossible to put in place successfully. It said the "ecological sustainability first" mandate is at odds with the reality that forests have ecological, economic and social uses, and is a significant departure from the agency's historic interpretation of its mission. David Tenny, acting deputy undersecretary of the Agriculture Department, which oversees the Forest Service, wrote the Forest Service Chief Dale Bosworth Wednesday, directing him to develop a plan to modify parts of the planning rules and resolve the report's major concerns. "The goal is to have a revised rule by the end of the calendar year," Tenny wrote. The decision comes as the administration is also reviewing the Clinton administration's ban on road-building on a third of the country's national forests. Western Republicans and the timber industry have criticized policy as a sweeping mandate from Washington. President Bush suspended the roadless rule, which should have gone into effect in March, until May 12 while his administration reviews the policy. The results of that review could come next week, when the Justice Department will file a brief in a lawsuit filed by the state of Idaho challenging the rules. The Wilderness Society said the administration's decision to review the forest planning rules and the road-building ban is an "all-out assault" on the national forests. The planning regulations "were developed over a three year period based upon the recommendations of a committee of scientists and very elaborate public involvement," said Mike Anderson, senior resource analyst for The Wilderness Society. "I am very suspicious." Not all environmental groups agree. The Western Environmental Law Center, on behalf of a dozen conservation groups, filed a lawsuit in February in the U.S. District Court in the Northern District of California saying the planning rules gave the Forest Service too much freedom to manage its 192 million acres of forest land. The overhaul of the regulations had been in the works since the first Bush administration. It was the first time in almost two decades the Forest Service changed the rules implementing the National Forest Management Act of 1976, a law that governs activities in federal forests. worldnetdaily.com