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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: E who wrote (9085)	3/19/2001 10:52:38 AM
From: Win Smith	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

E, on the subject of the genocidal excursions of historical Christianity, there's another well known example. As Monty Python put it, NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition! A little more proximate than the Crusades, I hear it was pretty nasty too, though I'm sure it's readily excused on some neoconservative theological grounds or other.

To: E who wrote (9085)	3/19/2001 11:40:33 AM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

We were talking about the relationship between Nazi anti- semitism, involving the systematic extermination of European Jewry (defined by the Nazis as anyone with one grandparent who was a Jew), and the occasional outbreaks of violence due to Christian anti- Judaism. My original comment was that the former was much more virulent than the latter, which I still maintain. By the way, I remembered that you contrasted the hundreds who helped Jews during the Holocaust with the millions responsible. But there were not millions responsible for the Holocaust. The program of extermination itself was rather secretive, and many Nazis did not even make the pretense of being Christian. On the basis I imagine you would justify the statement, I could point to the actions of the Danish in defying the use of the Star of David to identify Jews, or, for that matter, the attitudes of the American servicemen who liberated that camps. In a couple of incidents, the commanding officers could not restrain them from the summary execution of Nazis, so furious and horrified were they at what had been done. This is not to say that World War II was a crusade to save the Jews, but rather that millions of Christians shared the outrage of those soldiers. Christianity was not responsible for the Nazis, though it had something to answer for in its own anti- Judaic pronouncements.......