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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Neocon who wrote (9095)	3/19/2001 11:56:53 AM
From: Win Smith	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

By the way, you are quite the weasel as usual, Neocon. How come I rate the standard Brittanica blather instead of the "by the way, we were talking about something else" that E got? You might be amused by the 2nd thing Google pulls up on "Spanish Inquisition", Monty Python being the first. Nice gallery of your friends at the bottom of the page. internettrash.com

To: Neocon who wrote (9095)	3/19/2001 6:08:31 PM
From: E	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

And this is exculpating how? Because it characterizes the "several thousand" who were burned (not to mentioned tortured) for "Judaizing practices" as "not very large" numbers? Several thousand sounds like a large number to me, considering what happened to them. Visualize several thousand individuals screaming under torture, as they died. Visualize "the whole family of the philosopher and humanist Juan Luis Vives" screaming as they died. And of course "many more thousands of conversos escaped similar fates only by fleeing the country." You evidently want to be sure we don't think of it as genocide or extermination. Okay, it wasn't genocide or extermination. It was just killing, hideously, thousands of Jews, many fewer than they wanted to kill (because thousands fled), and it was simply Isabella's "pious duty," she felt, to expel 170,000 of her citizens who refused to convert to her religion, Christianity. From your link: The Supreme Council of the Inquisition (or Suprema) was the only formal institution set up by the Catholic Monarchs for all their kingdoms together. Nevertheless, they thought of it primarily in religious and not in political terms... The Inquisition's secret procedures, its eagerness to accept denunciations, its use of torture, the absence of counsel for the accused, the lack of any right to confront hostile witnesses, and the practice of confiscating the property of those who were condemned and sharing it between the Inquisition, the crown, and the accusers--all this inspired great terror, as indeed it was meant to do.