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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Solon who wrote (9112)	3/19/2001 2:05:35 PM
From: Solon	Respond to of 82486

Martin Luther did much more than translate the bible into German. As a renowned scholar, he was able to collate the past and bring it to the future. A remarkable achievement. Some were able to answer Luther's challenge (bolding mine)... "First, their synagogues should be set on fire, and whatever does not burn up should be covered or spread over with dirt so that no one may ever be able to see a cinder or stone of it. And this ought to be done for the honor of God and of Christianity in order that God may see that we are Christians, and that we have not wittingly tolerated or approved of such public lying, cursing, and blaspheming of His Son and His Christians. Secondly, their homes should likewise be broken down and destroyed. For they perpetrate the same things there that they do in their synagogues. For this reason they ought to be put under one roof or in a stable, like gypsies, in order that they may realize that they are not masters in our land, as they boast, but miserable captives, as they complain of incessantly before God with bitter wailing. Thirdly, they should be deprived of their prayer-books and Talmuds in which such idolatry, lies, cursing, and blasphemy are taught. Fourthly, their rabbis must be forbidden under threat of death to teach any more... Fifthly, passport and traveling privileges should be absolutely forbidden to the Jews. For they have no business in the rural districts since they are not nobles, nor officials, nor merchants, nor the like. Let them stay at home...If you princes and nobles do not close the road legally to such exploiters, then some troop ought to ride against them, for they will learn from this pamphlet what the Jews are and how to handle them and that they ought not to be protected. You ought not, you cannot protect them, unless in the eyes of God you want to share all their abomination... To sum up, dear princes and nobles who have Jews in your domains, if this advice of mine does not suit you, then find a better one so that you and we may all be free of this insufferable devilish burden - the Jews..."

To: Solon who wrote (9112)	3/19/2001 9:50:17 PM
From: E	Respond to of 82486

Oh, my GOD. Well, probably the Jews asked for it. People were illiterate. It was different then. There is so much to choose from, but I particularly like these words of the Church Fathers: "Truly I doubt whether a Jew can be really human… a monstrous animal...a laughing stock... thou Jew, thou brute beast..." "circumcision [so]...you and only you might suffer the afflictions that are now justly yours; that only your land be desolated, and your cities ruined by fire, that the fruits of your land be eaten by strangers before your very eyes..." "The synagogue is worse than a brothel…it is the den of scoundrels and the repair of wild beasts…the temple of demons... the refuge of brigands and dabauchees, and the cavern of devils... a den of thieves, a house of ill fame, a dwelling of iniquity, the refuge of devils..." "The Jews too got what they deserved... he polluted and squirted them so full that it oozes from them in all places and devil’s filth comes from them. Yes, that tastes good to them, into their hearts, they smack their lips like swine."

To: Solon who wrote (9112)	3/19/2001 9:58:04 PM
From: E	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Here are some of my favorite Martin Luther lines: "First, their synagogues should be set on fire, and whatever does not burn up should be covered or spread over with dirt so that no one may ever be able to see a cinder or stone of it. And this ought to be done for the honor of God and of Christianity in order that God may see that we are Christians... Secondly, their homes should likewise be broken down and destroyed. For they perpetrate the same things there that they do in their synagogues. For this reason they ought to be put under one roof or in a stable, like gypsies... miserable captives, as they complain of incessantly before God with bitter wailing. Thirdly, they should be deprived of their prayer-books and Talmuds in which such idolatry, lies, cursing, and blasphemy are taught. Fourthly, their rabbis must be forbidden under threat of death to teach any more... Fifthly, passport and traveling privileges should be absolutely forbidden to the Jews. For they have no business in the rural districts since they are not nobles, nor officials, nor merchants, nor the like. Let them stay at home...If you princes and nobles do not close the road legally to such exploiters, then some troop ought to ride against them, for they will learn from this pamphlet what the Jews are and how to handle them and that they ought not to be protected. You ought not, you cannot protect them, unless in the eyes of God you want to share all their abomination...