To: Mika Kukkanen who wrote (9916 ) 3/19/2001 3:16:01 PM From: 49thMIMOMander Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 34857 I actually tried to get my (very local and small) ISP provider to test me with 802.11, we both have nice old TV-antennas to put up directional yagi antennas in, and they (and me) might have got a leg up on sonera?? But their reply after some time was that they had enough problems updating their DSL customers on-site-settings to start climbing roofs, trees and antenna poles, adjusting antennas and wiping off snow. The WLAN they tested also had problems going through a regular concrete cellar wall with the regular omnidirectional antenna, so we agreed to continue with a sonera rented copperwire and DSL (no need for ADSL as sonera installed enough twisted pairs some 20 years ago). But I'm sure there are some topological areas where 802.11 without multipath fingers but with directional antennas can work,ie. until the number of users mess up the whole 2.4GHz band to a free, unregulated noise. (the noise is getting louder??) I'm still waiting for Nokia getting their DSL-WLAN down to practical costs for home use, I guess I can adjust my (wooden) inhouse yagi antennas myself. However, I guess my wireless keyboards and mice will have to go, I already have to lean backwards with my GSM to be able to move the (logitech) mouse cursor (or change the mouse battery every second week). Another trick I have learned with the wireless mouse is to not place the "base station" above the hard drive, and to move it about 1cm in any direction when the cursor seem stuck (I'm a trackball person so the terminal does not move) That is, my ISP and me agree that the business maybe shouldn't depend on free, unregulated bands and low-margin paying customers who still have all the regular, crashing windoze problems?? Ilmarinen. Btw, one cannot watch DVDs over 10Mbps ethernet, need 100Mbps. (that is, H2 will finally distribute one boxed TV channel to all monitors,TVs in the house, if the encryption standards allow)