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To: Gordon A. Langston who wrote (9185)	3/20/2001 1:39:04 PM
From: cosmicforce	Respond to of 82486

You're definitely right. I know my oldest kid does things at home that she isn't doing at school. Partly this may be because they are constrained in school more than they used to be. I think the consequences of misbehaving have been increased in schools. When I was a kid, an unprovoked assault was not usually handled with a suspension or being expelled. Today it is. Bullying is still a problem, but the kinds of things kids did to others 25 years ago would cause expulsion now if identified. "Waiting for someone after school" was a common thing and if you were doing this now, you could be expelled or tracked into a class of "problem kids". I don't know how the economics of the current world will allow us to return to a time where most mothers can stay at home through middle school. My wife and I did this but we paid a huge price. Most of the people in my salary range have wives making the same kind of money. I have a smaller house and a cheaper car as a result of our decision. I'll also have to work longer to retire. But this was a choice. I don't whine about it but I kind of cringe when the children of people who didn't make these sacrifices want to interact with mine.

To: Gordon A. Langston who wrote (9185)	3/20/2001 2:17:14 PM
From: epicure	Respond to of 82486

I have found that I can control some, but not all, of the kids that act out by finding a way to make them feel special- and by showing them that I am there to pay attention to them- in a positive way. I can't reach everyone- but it's really fun to reach a few. When you find the connection to these children it is really like a light bulb going off. For whatever reason some of these children clearly do need more attention- and I think it is the teachers job to find a way to give those children more attention- and to get out of the way of the kids that do not need attention- because some children do not want a teacher hovering over them. I think we all have had experience with teachers who interfere too much. It's a fine line- and it requires a lot of discrimination on the part of a teacher- especially an elementary school teacher. Because kids can't tell you what they want or what they need- they don't have the self awareness and they don't have the vocabulary. Elementary school teachers must assess for themselves, and then act on that assessment. I've taught adults- it's much easier than teaching children. But, imo, teaching children is much more rewarding and you have a much bigger impact.