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To: Jim McMannis who wrote (130489)	3/20/2001 3:03:19 PM
From: semiconeng	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

Still, the P4 leaves a pit in my stomach. Hold your stomach for a bit longer. I suspect, that when you see the results from Northwood 0.13u, your "pit" will be gone. Semi

To: Jim McMannis who wrote (130489)	3/20/2001 3:49:15 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

Jim, my point was that Coppermine faced a lot of problems at its introduction, just like you pointed out, but it gradually turned into the highest-volume, best-selling processor of all time. You'll likely see the same pattern with Pentium 4 as Intel refines both the processor and the platform. By then, you'll likely hop off that fence into the P4 camp and claim you knew all the time that MHz would carry P4 to success. Tenchusatsu

To: Jim McMannis who wrote (130489)	3/23/2001 11:04:06 PM
From: Joe NYC	Respond to of 186894

Jim, I've been riding the fence on Willy as well, I think it's actually a lot worse chip than Coppermine but it does have Mhz and will have SDRAM and DDR. Benchs will likely suck on SDRAM but their will always be those who only see Mhz. As one of the reviewers stated, P4 is an IQ test. But if you look at the Bell Curve, there are just as many people on the left side as on the right side, so there will be some interest. Unfortunately, those on the right side of the Bell Curve have the money it takes to buy one of those P4 machines, the ones on the left probably don't. Regarding benchmarks, it depends on how wasteful P4 is with the bandwidth to achieve a given task. Single channel SDRAM was about on par with dual channel RDRAM with Coppermine, but Coppermine could use no more than half the available bandwidth of 840 chipset. (IQ test for Semi) SDRAM has lower latency than RDRAM which will help. But who cares about benchmarks? If a potential customer cared about the benchmarks, he would not be buying a P4 in the first place. Joe