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To: Neocon who wrote (9206)	3/20/2001 6:49:28 PM
From: E	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 82486

Nazism grew out of Christian anti-Semitism, and was sustained by it. The death technology available to this hybrid system of beliefs embodied in Germany from the 1930's on allowed for the expression of virulence obviously not attainable by Christian mobs limited in their arms to knives, axes, and the torch. Pre-Nazi Christian anti-Semitism periodically rose into spikes of genocidal killing. I don't know what comparisons of "virulence" mean in such a context. <<<.It is only to note that some of the occasional virulence of language, such as that found in Revelations, may have been exacerbated by the hostilities "on the ground".>>> It was the "virulence of language" embodied in scripture, which is language, throughout the New Testament, and not all that "occasionally," that sustained and sanctified the great bulk of Western anti-Semitism in its various expressions. And these privileged texts continue to perform the same function today, as a quick glance at the lunatic Aryan Nations literature will illustrate. Remember that after the destruction of the Temple, Jews never, until modern times, exercised state power. After Constantine, with the incorporation of Christianity into the Roman state, a long history of state-backed persecution of the Jews began. There is no parallelism between the conflicts that broke out between Jews and Christians in the pre-Constantine period and the tremendous, unending toll of Jewish oppression carried out by the Roman state and its various successor states and armies.

To: Neocon who wrote (9206)	3/20/2001 7:00:52 PM
From: E	Respond to of 82486

A quote from the introduction to Christian Antisemitism, a History of Hate, by William Nicholls, that explains one (non-technological, religious) reason the Final Solution wasn't adopted earlier: "In the Christian state of the Constantinian era, theological hostility led to social and legal measures, discriminating against Jews and relegating them to a subordinate status in a Christian world. Raul Hilberg has shown in a famous comparative table how many of the Nazi measures against the Jews, short of the Final Solution itself, were not novelties, but reenactments of older measures of the Christian world, laws of state and church that kept the Jews in their place. Nevertheless, the Christian world did stop short of a final solution. Christian legislation was governed by a principle apparently first formulated by Augustine in the fifth century: The Jews should be preserved, but in misery.They are to remain in the world as a permanent witness to their own crimes, bearing the mark of Cain, but, like Cain, not to be killed by others." This theological notion of Augustine's undoubtedly saved the lives of many Jews.