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To: limtex who wrote (34252)3/21/2001 12:03:27 AM
From: Jim Willie CB  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 65232
 
good short debate on CNBC tonight about Fed cuts and recession

first, let me preface that I am a jackass, not a bigot
during my education I learned a few things
and during my career those things were reinforced
I have the utmost respect for Jews in the world of business
generalizations stink, but I find them often extremely sharp mentally, and not prone to emotional biases
sure, I tried to strangle my old Digital boss, but let's not count that
my best college friend is a LungIslander
enough, before I protest too much

the CNBC debate featured three Jews, each an expert on economics
who could ask for a better setting?
whenever I see Allen Sinai, my attention perks
one guest was Sinai from some private economic consultancy
another guest was Jeremy Siegel of Wharton School
and a sharpie named Steinberg from Merrill Lynch
they discussed today's rate cut and likelihood of recession

Sinai has no vested interest, and believes:
we are entering a recession that cannot be avoided
the Fed waited too long before easing, and has not eased fast enough to compensate
Greenspan definitely blew it today, not cutting 75
the economy is slowly down, and will slow down more
lower earnings will soon lead to many more layoffs
accelerated layoffs will feed into reduced consumer spending
reduced spending will affect a cross-section of companies
next to see sharper stock values decline are Dow stocks and non-tech S&P
lower interest rates cannot stop the recession
increased spending can stop the recession
but consumer spending will not revive until job security returns
momentum has begun for reduced spending, not played out
look for economic bottom late in 2001, recovery by 2nd half 2002
Greenspan blew it

Jeremy Siegel has no vested interest, and believes:
we will come out of this slowdown, but it will take time
we probably will have a recession, at best a brief one
lower interest rates will stimulate the economy
but it will take time
interest rates are an ineffective means to stimulate spending
Greenspan couldve cut 75 today, wouldve been better, but what he did today was ok
the economy will bottom this year, recovery by year end at earliest
Greenspan should have done more, sooner

Steinberg has a clear vested interest, and believes:
Fed cuts will get the job done, everything on track so far
inventories are working off gradually, as expected
we will avert a recession
dont expect a rash of corporate layoffs
spending will return to proper health
the economy will bottom this summer, and recover by year end
Greenspan perhaps shouldve cut 75 today, but he is on top of the matter

that is from memory... I didnt see the entire interviews
but I did see the entire Sinai talk
I like Sinai's track record over the years
he is the sharpest knife in the drawer among economists
economists vary from total shitbrains to geniuses
tremendous spread of talent in this profession
Sinai is in top3 in my book

earnings will not return simply because rates are lower
we must proceed thru an entire sequence of events
capex spending has been halted in many pockets of the economy
jobs have begun to be shed by corporate managers
as earnings become even more visible, expect more layoffs
consumer spending has declined from not only stock lost wealth,
but also from job insecurity
corporate spending has declined from poor visibility in earnings
consumer and corporate spending will not quickly revive

you cannot get to fourth gear before getting into first gear
in January GreenShit claimed the supertanker was not moving
that is saying GDP growth was zero then
with FedFundsRate above 3mo TB yield, BRAKES ARE STILL ON
I believe we will see negative GDP growth for Q1
if not, then surely negative GDP growth for Q2
inventories came down briefly in late January
but they grew in a big way in February
inventories clearly identify what gear we are in

expect GDP to decline for 3-4 months at least
because only then will FedFunds be at/below 3mo TBills

GreenTurd needs to begin to manage a stock market recovery
because stock levels will soon trigger spending cutbacks

GreenAsshole's cute talk of "trying to keep everyone guessing" was irresponsible, unprofessional, incompetent, and I believe treasonous to the American Free Enterprise system

remember: stock market is smarter at predicting recession than anyone, any small group of people, any micro institution of people

this stock market is predicting a recession
Sinai sees it also
brace yourself

sell into rallies
short vulnerable overpriced stocks with nonexistent earnings
they may be dead peanut shells on the floor by this time next year

shalom, Haime