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To: Gottfried who wrote (2144)	3/21/2001 3:38:27 PM
From: Wowzer	Respond to of 23153

Added some IMCL here at 26 13/16. This one is a great trader.

To: Gottfried who wrote (2144)	3/21/2001 4:19:31 PM
From: excardog	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23153

Hey you guys leave Oregon out of this. Pretty soon all you CA boys are going to want to take us over. Oil stuff (Norway worlds 2nd largest exporter) --Norway's Troll B oil rig back to full output Friday after fire --Fire cuts output at Norway's Troll B oil platform to 25% By Sean Ross Oslo, March 21 (BridgeNews) - Crude oil production from Norway's Troll B platform in the North Sea was reduced to just 25% after a fire broke out-- probably on one of the gas turbines--in the early hours of Wednesday morning. Operator Norsk Hydro told BridgeNews it expected output from the 175,000 barrel per day platform to be back to normal by Friday. * * * "We are slowly increasing production. We are at around 25% now and will be back to normal production in about two days," said Hydro spokesman Gisle Johanson. He said the origin of the fire had not been verified but that smoke had been detected in a turbine. Fifty-nine personnel were removed from the platform, which was shut for two hours before slowly resuming operations again. End

To: Gottfried who wrote (2144)	3/21/2001 6:19:32 PM
From: excardog	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23153

This fellow (reading between the lines) seems to suggest we should thin the CA population. Jim Jones Kool Aid anyone? Californians for Population Stabilization: Energy Secretary Abraham Is Responsible for California's Energy 'Shortage' - All of California's increased demand is from population growth, not increased usage; per capita consumption lower in 1999 than 1979 - As a Senator, Abraham was the one most responsible for population growth - Abraham scuttled proposal of Barbara Jordan for reduced immigration LOS ANGELES, March 21 /PRNewswire/ -- The following statement is being issued by Ric Oberlink, spokesperson for the Los Angeles-based Californians for Population Stabilization: ``We don't have an energy shortage in California. We have a population 'longage.' ``How ironic than Abraham, as Energy Secretary, is criticizing California. He, more than anyone else, scuttled the Jordan Commission's call for immigration reductions. The result is continuing population growth in California and not enough electricity to meet that demand.'' Before he was defeated for reelection, Abraham was a Senator from Michigan. As chair of the Immigration Subcommittee, Abraham led the opposition to reduced immigration that was proposed by the U.S. Commission on Immigration Reform, chaired by the late Barbara Jordan. In Senate testimony last week, Abraham stated, ``The clear cause of this electricity crisis ... is an imbalance between supply and demand.'' ``That's exactly right,'' Oberlink concurred. ``The question is how this imbalance developed. Per capita consumption has been flat in California for 25 years. All the increased demand is due to population growth and nearly all of that is coming from immigration. We may yet learn that manipulation by producers is a factor in price increases, but you can't manipulate prices in times of surplus. You can only do that when supplies are short.'' According to the California Energy Commission, per capita consumption of electricity in the state was 7,292 kilowatt-hours in 1979. It dropped to 6,952 kilowatt-hours in 1999 -- a 5 percent decrease. However, during that same 20 years the state's population grew from 23 million to 33 million -- a 43 percent increase. California experienced power blackouts on Monday and Tuesday. Earlier this year it endured a month of Stage 3 alerts. A Stage 3 alert occurs when operating reserves drop below 1.5 percent -- a figure lower than the state's annual rate of population growth. The state's current growth rate exceeds that of developing nations such as Bangladesh and Indonesia. California's population of 34 million is projected to grow to 60 million by 2040. Nearly all of the population growth in California is due to immigration According to the Census Bureau, two-thirds of U.S. population growth comes from immigration. The proportion for California is higher still. SOURCE: Californians for Population Stabilization