To: Dayuhan who wrote (9314 ) 3/21/2001 6:16:44 PM From: one_less Read Replies (2) | Respond to "But life is not just and fair, not intrinsically." I disagree. My definition of just and fair is that, Life is just and fair when everyone's needs are being met absolutely and simultaneously for eternity. "All human experience demonstrates that the only way to achieve justice and fairness in a human society is for humans to design and enforce their own notions of justice and fairness." Our society currently has this situation. You are claiming that it is fair to all and at all times?"Our natural state follows the law of the jungle, and is not what we would call just and fair, though nature, if nature were a conscious entity, would see no problem with it at all." Except for the human condition I would say that nature is just and fair to all creatures. "If we want any order beyond the law of the jungle, we craft it ourselves. We do want order, and we do craft it ourselves. That is why we are no longer living like cavemen." This is true. I recognize that there are limitations to our justice system. This is true primarily because in any given situation we can not be all knowing, or all powerful. We can't stop injustices toward one person occurring at the hands of another person. And, we cannot bring criminals to justice with 100% assurance that we are doing the right thing. It's what we have to work with and I am a willing participant. I try my best to base my outlook on principle. I believe we have sound principle that can last the test of time and will hold true through the fullness of time.
