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To: Joe NYC who wrote (32681)	3/22/2001 6:21:43 AM
From: andreas_wonisch	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Joe, Re: Very thoughtful review by Anand Did you see this paragraph: Recent information seems to indicate that the Palomino could be released even later than that, it seems like Palomino could turn out to be more than just a cooler running core. Let's hope so. I hear that AMD is demoing 1.53 GHz Palominos at its CeBIT booth. I'll visit it tomorrow and really hope to get a status about what's going on. But probably we won't really know until an independent reviewer gets a sample. Andreas

To: Joe NYC who wrote (32681)	3/22/2001 6:36:06 AM
From: stribe30	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Well Joe, at least no one can accuse AMD of a Palomino paper-launch ;) I read the Anand article.. I honestly dont remember him saying that part he quoted.. I cant even remember if that was discussed here or not ------------------------------------------------------ We later provided an update to that roadmap that said not to expect the desktop Palomino until much later. To quote our CPUs in 2001 article, we said the following: "In February/March the Athlon should gain another clock step or two taking it up to 1.33GHz and possibly up to 1.4GHz. Both of these CPUs will still be based on the current Thunderbird core and they should generate a considerable amount of heat. Luckily the 1.4GHz Athlon should be the last Thunderbird based processor for AMD, paving the way for the 1.5GHz Athlon based on the cooler running Palomino core to be released sometime in the May - June timeframe." --------------------------------------- He doesnt seem that particularly concerned about the Palomino delayed entry.. but IF I were an investor.. (fortunately I am not :) ) I wouldnt be so concerned about the roll-back as I would be about Ruiz's conference a couple of weeks ago that made no mention of this rollback. I'd sure like to hear what AMD PR or IR or whoever would have to say about that. Finally.. this interesting bit: ------------------------------- AMD has also been improving yields on their Athlons, we were recently testing an OEM 1.1GHz Athlon that would work perfectly fine at 1.33GHz without even increasing its core voltage. The 1.33GHz part we used for these tests, in spite of its incredible heat dissipation, was able to hit just under 1.5GHz without too much effort. If AMD can get the current Thunderbird core to carry them to 1.5GHz and beyond, they might just save Palomino for a rainy day and hope to hit with something much harder than just a cooler running core. --------------------------------------------- anandtech.com