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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: epicure who wrote (9398)	3/22/2001 12:45:47 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

And I appreciate it...."I am merely giving you an alternative that has one less step- a la Occam's razor." See, I don't think it qualifies. The universe is bound by temporal limitations. My alternative works and yes defines the problem away. You don't have to believe it to see that. "Any qualities you give to your designer you could just as easily give to your universe- since you are simply defining your problem away." Nope because the universe is temporally limited and the Designer of it is not. but again ..."or the other created object (the designer)" the designer is not a created object and that was the point I was responding to when you chimbed in. Some one asked Who created the designer and I pointed out that since the designer was outside the temporal universe the designer was eternal and by definition nothing comes before eternity. "(pulluing definitions out of the air)" Am I not free to think and define on my own?