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To: TGPTNDR who wrote (134815)	3/22/2001 8:41:22 PM
From: 5dave22	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1571207

Given what they knew the time FDR has to top the list. And a little credit has to go to Woodie for creating the National Park Services. But yes, Clinton and Carter were good. Of course, Gore would have been the best yet. Dave edit - Meant to say Teddy.

To: TGPTNDR who wrote (134815)	3/22/2001 8:47:49 PM
From: Windsock	Respond to of 1571207

TPG - Re: "Now who do you think would make the better list?" Ever hear of Teddy Roosevelt ??

To: TGPTNDR who wrote (134815)	3/22/2001 9:05:10 PM
From: combjelly	Respond to of 1571207

"Nobody gave a shit about the environment before Carter" But the EPA was created in 1970. For all it's warts, there has been a lot cleaned up because of it. I remember as a kid, having to drive with lights on because the smoke from the refineries was so thick. Women would get their pantyhose eaten off of them when the humidity was high because of sulfur oxides in te air. They once seined a 10 mile stretch of the Neches River and came up with 1 carp and 1 gar, and the carp was dead. I won't even go into the population studies that we did in the marshes and what you could construe from the population distributions. All of that has changed. Water quality improved a lot since those days. And then Dubya de-funded water quality testing because some of his buds that owned refineries were under pressure for dumping...

To: TGPTNDR who wrote (134815)	3/23/2001 4:02:45 PM
From: stribe30	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1571207

US scientist fired for posting Alaska wildlife maps Looks like Bush and CO. are now trying to erase any internal opposition or posting of facts contrary to their beliefs. ----------------- The US Geological Survey scientist who says he was fired for posting politically sensitive maps illustrating the biodiversity of the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge on the web has reposted the contentious material. "I had bad timing!" Ian Thomas, who worked at the Patuxent Wildlife Research Center in Maryland, part of the Biological Resources division of the USGS told The Register. He says the maps in question contained already publicly available information - as had the 20,000 or so other maps he'd published on the web, including maps of every refuge in the lower 48 states. "The USGS were briefing Gail Norton on new data, data that isn't public," claims the British-born Thomas. "When all of a sudden someone puts out these pretty pictures - right in the middle of a presentation." President George W Bush wasted little time in talking up the need for cheaper energy after he got elected, for which he favours drilling in the Arctic reserve, which until now has been off-limits to Bozo's Big Oil Texan backers. Meanwhile, Thomas says he was dismissed without explanation. The USGS has subsequently told reporters that standard review procedure 'was not followed'. That's an explanation Thomas finds hard to believe. "They could have told me to take the maps off the Internet. It wasn't like I was going to go out of my way to lose my job," he told us. He admits that his initial contract was for work on migratory birds, but subsequent work had been approved. As a contractor he adds, he isn't in a position to sue for unfair dismissal. "I guess there's no way I'm going to get my job back now," he says. "but I hope that people become aware of the political pressure that scientists are under." It's a dangerous place, the Internet.® theregister.co.uk Ian Thomas's Webpage where the "offending" maps that got him fired have been reposted is here; maptricks.com