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To: Sam Citron who wrote (44378)3/23/2001 12:07:10 AM
From: Ian@SI  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 70976
 
In the first Q of the AMAT Analyst Meeting Q&A, Joe Bronson talked about 300mm revenues:

Some of his comments.

We know what 300mm revenues will be for the whole year. We've got a plant in Austin that's fully booked.

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Seems to me that 300mm pilots and capacity are not being cut back to any significant degree.

Ian.



To: Sam Citron who wrote (44378)3/23/2001 9:20:03 AM
From: Katherine Derbyshire  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 70976
 
The SEMI chart takes a different view of the data from the chart I'm looking at. Same data, but SEMI slices it a little differently. My source is IC Insights' industry report. Unfortunately the specific chart is not online.

You might try plotting ASP change in % terms against capital spending change in % terms. You also might try using a longer time period or a rolling average to damp out some of the statistical fluctuations in ASP and get a more accurate comparison to the three-month average used in the equipment chart.

I don't disagree with SEMI's statement that ASPs rose 12.5% from Sep. 99 to Sep. 2000. The problem was that capex rose 80+% in the same time frame. For comparison, ASP rose on the order of 15% in '92 and '93, and close to 25% in '94 and '95. The danger sign was the combination of record-breaking capex growth with relatively anemic ASP growth.

Katherine

PS For the record, I'm not claiming to have called the downturn. I *did* ask the IC Insights folks about the relatively weak ASP growth in light of reported shortages, but didn't make the connection with capex until after things had already fallen off a cliff.



To: Sam Citron who wrote (44378)3/23/2001 11:52:05 AM
From: Math Junkie  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 70976
 
One caution about that ASP chart: the latest data on it is six months old.