To: Jerry Olson who wrote (37459 ) 3/23/2001 7:52:27 AM From: IQBAL LATIF Respond to of 50167 It is not defensive, it is just that creeping feeling that you all get it so right all the time. I just don't see that, how to get and tread these markets without pain and to be able to know it so well. You guys were so darn bearish on SOX but you had no position, and you were so bullish above 600, I cannot do that in last fifteen minutes you took long opposite positions, made money and got out before 4.00 PM.. This is the reason and it is simple, you keep talking about exploits of that 'daroom' on my thread, should I not feel inadequate, that after my hard work and foolishly extended work others can do it so well, and I feel it my duty to make this available to everyone so that instead of 'Ideas' they have a short cut to profits and 'nirvana'. How would you feel if I come on your thread that may be very popular and make my 'ventures' public. I think you will ask me not to do it, I have not, I have rather asked you the permission to trade alongside you and make money like you all do avoiding all this 'free pain' I get..What iand my firends would need is the access to your room. If we all can enter, I have no problems killing this thread and devoid it from my 'useless wisdom'. I have taken everything in stride, but I will subject everyone to same scrutiny like I am subjected too, it is not easy to be abused constantly, questioned constantly and make sense all the way. It is also unfair that as you may have seen, that I get grilled on this thread for my positions which I most patiently answer, no reason that I should not subject any posters on 'Ideas' to similar higher standards, Idea is a free flow thread and I will only allow free flow threads to be projected here...I don't want this to become a grazing ground for private ventures. I think you have to be patient about that. Thanks as always.. I have been patient and I have this going for my pleasure and benefit of mankid at large gggg, I never expect this to help me propel into 'private ventures' and if I question that, I am not being defensive, rather putting this whole thing in right perspective. I have decided not to be naive.. I have 4 years being proposed 100 times on SI to be part of bigger groups 'money making groups', 'cartels to push stocks' and money making private ventures I have and had always thought this to be unfair and crule to SI and its spirit, I continue to think that. Those who charge can be subject to rough and tough standards, people like me motivated by 'pure intellectualism' shoud be defended from such people who try to discredit us to dust..