To: rich4eagle who wrote (133463 ) 3/26/2001 9:14:59 AM From: Catfish Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769667 rich4eagle, The Nazis and communists were indeed socialist, and a part of the left wing of the political spectrum. Their socialist ideology led to totalitarianism. But first, they must gain power, and they need a rallying point in order to gain support for themselves. They will promise radical changes in the current system. Here is an excerpt from the article "Nazis, Comminists and Socialiists - One and the same".Unlike the American quest for the best possible world, communism thus promises the perfect world. For Lenin, that meant a world where no one owned anything. For Hitler, one without Jews and ruled by Germans. Stalin combined it all -- no Jews, no ownership, and a world domination by Russia. Mao hunted down those who possessed Western books. All for social justice. All "in the best interest of the people." Now ask yourself, are the liberal elements of today espousing socialist values in America? Are these liberal ideas taking America down the road to socialism? Re-engineering of American society started in the 1930s, and it continues today. Here is another excerpt from the same article. There are the principles of the American Founding: the rule of law, individual rights, guaranteed property, and a common American identity. They bring, maintain, and defend freedom. Then there is the road to socialism: "social justice," group rights, redistribution through entitlements, and multiculturalism. They crush the human spirit, and enslave the participants. One is home-grown, secured by the sacrifice of countless generations, and uniquely successful. The other is of foreign origin, propagated around the world by political operatives, and has produced the greatest tragedies of recorded history. It should not be difficult to choose. But there is no middle.