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To: rich4eagle who wrote (133470)3/25/2001 10:15:16 PM
From: RON BL  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769667
 
Try to grasp this and see if your side is any better.

Trampling on parents' rights:
everyday life in Massachusetts
By Brian Camenker

President, Parents’ Rights Coalition
March 9, 2001

Parents across the Commonwealth of Massachusetts are demanding protection. Protection from whom? From their governor, their public schools and the "progressive" agenda of radical political groups! What follows is just the tip of an iceberg:

In Brookline, a transsexual adult came into a first-grade class and described to the children how sex changes take place. Parents had not been notified and had to counsel their frightened, confused children.

In many high schools across Massachusetts, entire days have been devoted to "Gay/Lesbian and Transgender" programs. Academic classes are cancelled and students are led to the activities, including panels, speakers, etc.

In Natick, high school students in the "gay-straight alliance" club were shown an R-rated movie about a graphic "love story" between two boys.

In Newton, school officials announced in the local newspapers that masturbation would be covered in the required courses for ninth graders.

At a required school assembly in Chelmsford, an instructor used four-letter words to describe the joys of oral and anal sex. Children participated in licking condoms.

A 14-year-old girl came home from Beverly High School and told her father that he was a "homophobe". She had just returned from "Homophobia Week" sessions at the school.

In schools across the state, students were told to answer surveys on their use of drugs and about personal feelings on suicide, death, homosexual activity and similar subjects. The wording was very intrusive. Parents were outraged when they found out.

In several towns, ninth grade girls in the health classes were assigned to go to a drug store, buy condoms, and practice putting them on a banana.

At Lexington High School, a parent discovered that her thirteen-year-olds could borrow a book (bought with state health funds) telling how gay men at the opera can socialize with "the backs of their trousers discreetly parted so they could experience a little extra pleasure while viewing the spectacle on stage."

In Newton, a high-school principal told a group of parents that they may not remove their children from the condom distribution program because "it is too important."

At Silver Lake High School, the ninth-grade health text teaches: "Testing your ability to function sexually and to give pleasure to another person may be less threatening in the early teens with people of your own sex." Also, "You may come to the conclusion that growing-up means rejecting the values of your parents." Students were told to keep the book in their lockers and not take it home.

In Ashland, children were assigned to play "gays" in a school skit. One boy's line was, "It's natural to be attracted to the same sex." Two girls were told to hold hands and pretend they were lesbians. Parents were not informed.

In Manomet, an eight-grade health class was given material which one boy said was against his parents' beliefs. He was told by the instructor, "If you have any trouble with your parents, tell me and I'll handle them."

In Nutting Lake, "counselors" conducted a group session where a girl was asked to share the details about her parents' divorce and her father's affair with the class. The sessions were to be kept confidential from parents.

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The Parents' Rights Coalition can be reached at www.parentsrightscoalition.org,
e-mail: office@parentsrightscoalition.org | telephone: 781-899-4905.

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To: rich4eagle who wrote (133470)3/25/2001 10:32:50 PM
From: Little Joe  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769667
 
Rich:

Do you find the idea that kids in school are being indoctrinated in political correctness as offensive as you find the idea that religions are supposedly trying to impose their ideas on society?

I am a Catholic. I know of no attempt by Catholics to make others come to our church or to believe in the Virgin Mary, or other church dogma. But you should understand that there are certain morals that are and have traditionally been the province of civil law as well as of religion.

While I do not accept the extreme view that any abortion is wrong, the fact is that abortions have long been a subject of regulation by the State. Are you suggesting that Catholics can't have an opinion or position about legalizing or banning abortion because of the religious nature of their beliefs. Hmmm. Maybe the religious community should not be allowed to oppose capital punishment since the basis of their opposition is their religious beliefs. Better yet, perhaps laws against murder should be repealed. Obviously it the religious fanatics who believe in the Ten Commandments who are responsible for such laws.

Rich - people who have strong religious views are just as entitled to advocate for laws as those who do not. As a society we can evaluate the basis of their views and accept or reject them based on our collective wisdom. This constant bashing of the religious is hypocritical in my view. During the Viet Nam War I supported the rights of the Berrigan Brothers who were catholic priests to participate in oppostion to the war, as did most dems. The same arguments were made against their participation and advocacy by the right as are now being made by the left against the so called religious right. I don't agree with them but I will defend their right to exercise their inherent rights as citizens to participate in the process and try to advance their point of view, so long as they do not use force, other than the force that is implied in every law passed by our government.

Little joe



To: rich4eagle who wrote (133470)3/25/2001 11:29:06 PM
From: ManyMoose  Respond to of 769667
 
That can't be, rich4eagle. You know the Constitution as well as I do. <<If it was up to them not only would the kids have to pray but pray to the right God!
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To: rich4eagle who wrote (133470)3/26/2001 1:57:52 PM
From: Thomas A Watson  Respond to of 769667
 
Dear richie, I am forever amazed at your ability to write down and express absurdity or nothing presented as a grand statement.

>>>>If it was up to them not only would the kids have to pray but pray to the right God!

From you post I would conclude that you have no knowledge or comprehension of the teachings of the majority of mainstream religions. Prayer is A reverent petition made to God, a god, or another object of worship.

A reverend petition can only be made within the privacy of ones mind and no external expression conveys any certainty of what is in the mind of someone and if in-fact they are praying or thinking whatever.

So I just say that those who have religion understand clearly what I have expressed and thus know that on cannot force anyone to pray to the right God or any God. One can create a time and quiet time when any who chose can make a reverent petition to their God or think about anything else.

What you fail to understand richie is that there are many who think they have religion and don't have a clue and they vilify those who have religion.

I wonder what person who believes in a God would have a problem with the words of the Lord's Prayer.. Oh well I guess all those politically correct fembots would object to Father and anyone who is a democrat would object to heaven as the democrat party plank is making life in America and on earth hell. The Gays would object to thy will be done.

Anyway no-matter what I say you will not get it anyway.

tom watson tosiwmee