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To: gdichaz who wrote (10099)	3/26/2001 8:15:10 PM
From: mightylakers	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 34857

Chaz, slandering is not FUD so Eric will keep his silence on this one<ggg>

To: gdichaz who wrote (10099)	3/27/2001 2:58:52 AM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 34857

Timothy Eckersley's comments are a joke. What is amazing that people can say such silly things and what's more amazing is that people sagely nod in agreement. Which CDMA operator of several are regretting their decision to use CDMA? Perhaps he meant some W-CDMA operators are regretting their choice of technology. That would make good sense. Maybe this is his way of saying Nokia has totally blown the 3G business. CDMA [of the VW-40 version] certainly does have a murky migration path to 3G. GSM to GPRS to EDGE to W-CDMA and the only one to work is GSM. That's serious murk. Nokia's CDMA is a very murky world of FUDD and hopelessness. He is also right that the W-CDMA world is one of more expensive intellectual property with many greedy paws trying to get a piece of the action. I'm surprised to see a Nokia person so dismissive of the Nokia CDMA plans. Maybe they have had a dose of truth serum? Anyway, according to Timothy Eckersley, W-CDMA is sounding VERY bad indeed! I guess people should sell Nokia shares quickly before they go down when prospective buyers realize Nokia is flogging a dead horse in W-CDMA. On the 'efficient GSM spectrum' comment, he seems to be simply confused. Maybe he was misreported. Mqurice

To: gdichaz who wrote (10099)	3/27/2001 8:09:25 AM
From: Eric L	Respond to of 34857

Chaz, << This is slander, simply put. >> I am not too crazy about the quotes attributed to Eckersly, but then again, while you define slander, consider the source. << Did the Nokia management authorize it. >> I doubt it. I think I'd be more concerned if the source were not Lynette "At&T" Explores 1xRTT Technology" Luna. cdg.org I thought I had read all the major press releases and overviews of all the major press conferences out of CTIA last week ... but this is the first I've heard of Mr. Eckersley. No one else reported on this, or mentioned his name. Ms. Luna doesn't say in her 'Holy Wars' expose what the subject of Nokia's press conference was, whether it was conducted by Eckersley - which I doubt (it could be the conference conducted by Rich Gerson, Senior Vice President of Marketing for Nokia Americas, or the conference conducted by The President of Nokia Americas or that conducted by Paul Chelgren, Vice President of Business Development with Nokia Mobile Phones. It most certainly was not part of Jorma Ollila's keynote piped in by satellite. She does not say if this was a response to a question in Q&A, or casual conversation with Eckersley, or whether she attended or picked it up from one of her Lucent or Nortel "sources", but one paragraph is directly quoted, so perhaps you should write her for more detail. I might add that Ms Luna doesn't always get her technical or historical facts straight ... an article of hers you asked me to comment on a month ago had "facts" wrapped around a flagpole. Well, Dr.Irwin Mark Jacobs resurrected the Holy Wars in November when he decided to base his corporate marketing program for 1xEV on FUD and Hype, so expect more of this. "Eckersley also attempted to dispel the "over-hyped" myths concerning the spectral advantages of CDMA technology." On this one, I can simply say ... QUALCOMM has made themselves fair game. "... because CDMA's advantages fade as more customers are added on the network." Not so sure about that one, but then again, I'm not so sure about Lynette. << This is slander, simply put >> Who is the slanderer? Eckersley or Luna? If I give you the impression that I do not consider Lynette Luna to be the most responsible journalist on the face of the wireless planet, then I have conveyed my sentiments appropriately. The 'Holy Wars' has been used in the title of MANY articles about the technology battles of the last decade. This one, is not one of the great ones. "GSM can allow our carrier customers to enjoy open competition rather than being locked up in intellectual property." Somebody at Eckersley's level shouldn't be flapping his mouth about this, but then again, someone at Dr. Jacobs level hadn't oughta be carelessly flapping his yap to the FT Times, and putting shareholder value at jeopardy. Eckersley hasn't damaged my portfolio. Jacobs has. As they say ... people who reside in glass houses .... - Eric -