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To: Ilaine who wrote (68)3/27/2001 1:33:10 AM
From: JF Quinnelly  Respond to of 443
 
I suspect that the origins of credit-as-money may be with bills of exchange issued between the large trade houses in medieval Europe. These houses went on for generations. Their paper would have been more convenient than gold, and probably regarded as just as sound. Instead of quickly redeeming this debt paper, I think merchants began circulating them amongst themselves to pay bills. When the bill of exchange was returned to the issuing house it could be tendered for gold, or for some other good that the house traded. Some of these houses, the Fuggers and so forth, evolved into early and powerful banking houses. Get a copy of Capital and Finance in the Age of the Renaissance by Ehrenburg for some background. He doesn't quite make the argument I did, but it's something I've been kicking around since reading him and some other histories of the origins of banking and money.



To: Ilaine who wrote (68)3/27/2001 2:03:15 AM
From: Don Lloyd  Respond to of 443
 
CB -

...Your promise to pay is probably worth less than Bill Gate's promise to pay but probably worth more than the promise of some alcoholic living in a trailer park....

Nothing was said about my issuing gold certificates. In fact, I specifically included governments as possible issuers. The gold certificate is in essence the same thing as a 100% gold backed dollar at a given ratio. The dollar used to be convertible at the rate of $35 to 1 ounce of gold. The exact equivalent gold certificate would simply contain the value 1/35th oz. gold on its face.

You are correct about trust being involved, whoever the issuer. I also suspect that calling something money should require that no discount be required.

Regards, Don