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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Bill who wrote (9837)	3/27/2001 11:47:40 AM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

I believe the term you are grasping for is sexual harassment- which I consider a bit different than abuse (although harassment can certainly rise to the level of abuse, in certain cases). You may not have intended to minimize what Bundy did, but that is what you are doing. I do not like to see the forceable rape and the physical brutalization of women minimized by connecting it with consensual workplace sex between unequal co-workers. I would say the President's relationship with Monica was exploitive - HIGHLY exploitive, but not abusive. That's my own opinion, I've no idea what NOW has to say about it. Nor do I really care. Your second point is ridiculous. All presidents kill people with their actions. Shrub has killed people in the no-fly zone- did he do it to look "tough"? If so then he killed people for vanity. Presidents make life and death decisions that affect lots of people all the time- that doesn't make them Ted Bundy. I do not know if Bundy and Clinton have the same "attributes"- I doubt it. Neither one of us is in a position to know- but only one of us has an emotional need to propose it and try to support some connection. Your defense only makes your proposition look more ridiculous. Most people are weak when it comes to temptations of the flesh. Many people enter into unethical relationships in the workplace- and are unethical in general, of course most people rationalize their unethical behavior. Most people seem to have ethical lapses you could drive a humvee through- that doesn't make most, or even many, people Ted Bundy.

To: Bill who wrote (9837)	3/27/2001 5:11:00 PM
From: Dayuhan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Second, if you consider what he's done with his political power, Bill Clinton has killed many more people than Ted Bundy already. His wag-the-dog bombings and his bribe of LM technology to China will have lasting effects. Why not apply this logic to other former presidents, and see how they shape up? Start with the Reagan-era subsidies to governments notorious for murdering and torturing citizens that disapproved of those in power. By your standard, practically every President was a mass murdered.