To: Eric L who wrote (10116 ) 3/27/2001 5:24:21 PM From: 49thMIMOMander Respond to of 34857 GPRS, time slots, received data and power. (The principal reasons for limiting the number of time slots are to (1) reduce the device's power consumption, temperature, and (2) cost, and to (3) increase the number of simultaneous users the network can support) In regards to 1 and 2: The simple fact (IMO) is that if it takes 50-100Mips to process one time slot, it takes 4 times more to process 4 timeslots, and 8(7) times more to process 8(7) time slots. (no vocoder on all those data timeslots, but other data stuff needed instead) Another simple fact is that with silicon geometries halved one can do 4 times more Mips with the roughly the same power consumption (as well as lowering both the Mips and power consumption by going 5-3-1V, same chip cost, but thinner,faster gates,etc,etc) That is, there is a time for GPRS with 2,4,7(8) time slots and that time is mostly a matter of new generations of sillycones (babewatch) and DSP architectures (as well not loading up too much metal with interconnections) (in the same way there is a time for CDMA at peak 2Mbps, but it is not yet here, except for those two handsets) The _MAXIMUM_ _TRANSMIT_ power of 0.2-0.6W specified is only a matter of transmitting that once in a while pushed enter key or roller and setting up the protocol, asking for retransmits,etc. The beauty of it all is that with more and more users the basestation grid must be denser, and less and less _TRANSMIT_ power is needed. However, the RF guys, biasing all those _RECEIVED_ timeslots still need to keep the bias flowing while listning (_receiving_), but that is peanuts compared to _TRANSMITTING_ at 0.2-0.6W (especially with the HiHi linearity of CDMA) But who has ever seen an honest, smiling RF-guy with enough bias and linearity?? Ilmarinen. P.S. In the base station one can, of course, burn a lot of power....both _TRANSMITTING_(talking) and receiving (listning) Luckily few base stations are supposed to be mobile and fit into a pocket, run on small batteries, except for TETRA. P.P.S. EDGE will waste as much RF bias current and power as CDMA, but at that point the base station grid will be dense enough, thanks to the popularity of GPRS. And one can fall back to regular, power saving GSM when needed, for _TRANSMITTING_ (which will probably never happen at "all times slots", except for somebody running a mobile xxx-rated website) P.P.P.S. I was very stimulated by the macho helicopter (cooling fan) spinning on the 1.3Ghz P4, but I wouldn't like to carry it, nor its battery, around in my pocket. (close to a 100W bulb, yes??, maybe too hot for even a hot RF-guy) P...P.S I believe a regular secretary is 50W, while a hot engineer reaches 100-200W, when designing air conditioning (peak and combined burst rates might be much more, with a couple of horses one can run a small sauna)