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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Greg or e who wrote (9984)	3/28/2001 7:48:05 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

The head of the largest Protestant denomination in Canada, (United Church) created a stir about two years ago when he let it slip in an interview, that he did not believe that Jesus rose from the dead. I may have mentioned this before on this thread. I was raised Catholic and have attended exactly one Protestant service. I was in college, it was Easter, and the church was Unitarian. I was amazed when the subject of the sermon was that Christ didn't rise from the dead. Of course, I'm not horrified by that as you are. It only makes sense to me. But having heard that sermon fairly early in life, I don't have any difficulty considering someone of that belief to be a Christian. Funk, on the other hand, goes much further: "We should give Jesus a demotion. It is no longer credible to think of Jesus as divine." Well, I'm an outsider looking in, but I find it hard to imagine one could deny the divinity of Christ and still be a Christian. That's just too bizarre for me. This allows them to continue to collect their salaries, while pulling the wool over the eyes of their own sheep. Many people left when they understood what was taking place, but many understood, and stayed. I wonder if you're not being too hard on them. After all, someone has to minister to those who don't buy the literal Bible bit. Isn't it better for Christianity that they stay in the neighborhood of the fold than drift away altogether. Heavens, they could end up like me. <g> I recognize that most people don't have the temperament to be agnostics or atheists. They need to maintain some of the tradition of their childhoods, the comfort of prayer, and the feeling of being part of their communities. This Liberal Christianity enables them to have those things, which is good for them, and it allows them to be counted in the Christian column, which is good for Christianity. No? Karen

To: Greg or e who wrote (9984)	3/29/2001 2:38:48 AM
From: 2MAR$	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

Risen from the dead like this ? accnorwalk.com it seems only to divide human beings to this day to see them all want to believe in such a fable. When the actual story of resurrection began so many centuries before with India's messiah Krishna, and the Lord Buddha...or from the many many other resurrection stories from out of Egypt , Greece and Persia . Almost every one of those earlier stories the same as the Christian , verbatim, for that's where they came from. Such beliefs only stem from an innate desire to perpetuate the myths of being "Chosen Ones " . Meant originally to separate themselves from the condemned and wicked , it has created far more wrong than good. In the modern world such notions are your right to believe in , but will not survive much longer. They are intrinsically foolish , wrong to teach your children or preach.... and much, much more. It even divides Christian from Christian as you pointed out. To further such a myth of exclusion , based solely on such limited view of God , must really test your powers of compassion to see the door only open to those who believe as you , and in your mind all others damned to eternal hell . But it is only in your mind where it is true ... the way may be narrow and hard , but not that hard to perpetuate such foolishness now . Something that was never original, but from a part of the world where the life and preservation of the tribe was paramount...and later an empire. regards Mars PS: People will always more easily congregate, when they learn to choose and to celebrate life together beyond that Tower of Babbel , that such beliefs foster. There always was a common thread, but there still remains so much ancient suspicion and resentments in that dogma that leads the tribes of that world make war to this day...instead of finding common ground.