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To: Stock Farmer who wrote (2685)	3/30/2001 3:31:21 AM
From: TobagoJack	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Hi John, <<We are not in disagreement, I think>> I think you first were, then weren't, followed by a hesitant were, later with more conviction, then faded some what, and now I think you were again, or are OK, or more precisely, fine, as in yes. Chugs, Jay

To: Stock Farmer who wrote (2685)	3/30/2001 2:27:32 PM
From: MeDroogies	Respond to of 74559

Perhaps we're not. But you're statement is that people attract and hold ONLY as much wealth as they feel they deserve. My response was that most people always feel that they deserve more. It's the paradox of rising expectations. BTW, you also mentioned stimulus and response...adding in choice for people. I agree that people have a choice in how they can behave. However, more often than not, the choice they make is to not choose how to behave. It's an easier thing to do - to just let the genetic/environmental coding do all the work. That's why when I pointed out that most people who are extraordinarily wealthy expect certain things, it's because they've been given those things all their life. They could choose to alter their behavior, certainly, but more likely don't because it would require thought and effort. I've watched 3 different companies I've worked for hire Harvard MBAs, freshly minted, on an annual basis. These guys come in, are supposed to learn the business and transform it, shape it, or manage it. Most of them try to apply what they've learned from school after "observing" for 3 months...only to find their learning has limited applications in the real world. Once they find that out, they swing into what I call the "Ivy League Network Mode" and, rather than working, begin developing relationships with higher ups so that they can be raised out of the "muck" into which they had been set. It's a learned behavior. If you can't do the job, meet and greet your way out of it. Most of us have become wary of the "H Bomb" (as in "when I was at Harvard" or "Harvard Biz School taught us") as time has gone by. I use them as an example of how, while a choice has been made, it is often the easiest one possible. I am reminded of the closing comments in the last Harry Potter book (which I highly recommend for everyone...it really isn't as much a kids book as people would think) where Albus Dumbledore is commenting on whether people will make good choices or easy ones. I pointed out to my sons that it isn't about good and bad, but really good and easy...that easy and good don't usually go hand in hand.