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To: porn_start878 who wrote (34183)3/30/2001 6:19:33 AM
From: fyodor_Respond to of 275872
 
Max: t is very, very unlikely that things go that fast. I never saw a new platform being ramped so fast, so expecting it from AMD is even more unrealistic.

Well, let's put things into perspective ;-)

K6-2 ---> K7 transition
--------------------------------------------------------
81mm² --> 184mm² (+127%)
cheap packaging --> expensive packaging
no off-die SRAM --> off-die SRAM
cheap platform --> expensive platform

To go from 100% K6 to 100% K7 took, IIRC, 18 months. If you compare the changes above with my expectations for the Tbred ---> Clawhammer transition:

~80mm² --> ~100mm²
slightly cheaper packaging costs due to fewer pins on the Clawhammer
cheaper platform costs due to LDT instead of EV6 (fewer pins, easier traces, fewer signalling problems)
64bit marketing heaven

Now, remember that the last 6 months of K6 production was solely because there was still strong demand for them (obvious, since the Athlons were so damned expensive). Taking this into account, along with the much more attractive transition (from a cost perspective), and I think it's very reasonable that Hammer production will overtake Tbred+Appaloosa production within 6-9 months of the Hammer introduction.

It should be noted that I am completely ignoring mobile chips - both the K6-2+ now and whatever AMD will have at Clawhammer introduction.

-fyo