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To: GraceZ who wrote (88296)	3/31/2001 4:42:12 PM
From: Skeeter Bug	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 436258

grace, how much economic productivity should be recorded for a website like yahoo!? i think it is the amount of dollars those efforts bring in... not the supposed efforts themselves. basic economics. ethe common denominator is dollars. if i set up a website with a gazillian hits a second and make $0 then my economic productivity contribution is 0. that's the way i view it. anything else is ethereal nonsense, imho. the bottom line is what did all this cool tech do in terms of generating revenues? not much above the norm and that is a fact. that fact is what led alan.com to change the method of calculation.

To: GraceZ who wrote (88296)	3/31/2001 5:08:35 PM
From: Michael Watkins	Respond to of 436258

Grace, My point was not to argue that computing does not offer tangible productivity benefits. After all, I sell solutions that claim to offer tangible productivity benefits. In fact I couldn't run my relatively small consulting business, compete and win more often than not against larger firms, without the benefits of the computer. Far from being a Luddite, I've been intimately involved with the personal computer revolution, which really sparked a total computing revolution, almost from the start. I've also been involved in the mainframe, software, networking, and storage sectors. Its been exciting all the way through, not just in the last few years of speculative frenzy. I was simply looking at Gilder's retort - he chose to focus on a simplistic view - the average PC user using Word, which Heinz brought up - and turn that into a new-era-ish sweeping statement. I have no time for new-era folks running other people's money. More often than not they spend all their time looking forward. Forward thinking is a good thing to be sure, but not if no time is spent considering history or daily reality.

To: GraceZ who wrote (88296)	3/31/2001 6:45:56 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 436258

With respect to 3-D medical imaging via CT scan, I know that it used to require something like the IBM RISC-6000 server, and now a Sun workstation will do just fine and some advanced software will work on a PC. The very first 3-D medical imaging I ever saw was at Johns Hopkins using the same type of IBM "Big Blue" supercomputer that beat Garry Kasparov in 1997. This is the type of productivity increase that can't be measured by traditional means. It's a loooooonnng way from using a computer as a word processor. I love this stuff - the top URL has animated 3d MRI images of hamster lungs and rat lungs in vivo. The bottom one has an MPG of an 3D MRI of a child's brain rotating. wwwcivm.mc.duke.edu mih.unibas.ch nyquist.ee.ualberta.ca