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Politics : The Left Wing Porch -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Poet who wrote (4361)	4/2/2001 10:48:58 AM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6089

Get used to feeling ashamed. I am telling you what I tell my mom. And move to high ground.

To: Poet who wrote (4361)	4/2/2001 10:52:39 AM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6089

BTW- I saw some really interesting movies this weekend. One of the best was Entropy. It was a truly thoughtful movie. If you ever saw The Zero Effect, or the Big Lebowski, it reminded me of those. Mostly because it is a philosophical movie.

To: Poet who wrote (4361)	4/2/2001 6:57:01 PM
From: The Philosopher	Respond to of 6089

Did you see that NYT article I posted to thames sider on Bush's pullout of the global warming agreement. For God's sake! The US emits 25% of those gases. How can we be so imperious as to think we don't need to get together with the rest of the world and work on it? I feel ashamed. Bush lacks the courage to demand that Americans make the sacrifices necessary to meet the Kyoto targets. He doesn't think we'll do even a little bit toward switching from private cars to mass transportation, turning down our air conditioners in summer, changing from incandescent to flourescent bulbs in our homes, going back to building nuclear power plants, etc. Well, maybe it's not a lack of courage, but a realization that he doesn't have the political capital with the nation to get the sacrifices, even relatively minor ones, necessary to implement the protocols. It's my understanding that server farms in California use enormous amounts of power -- I read a statistic, which I'm not sure I believe, that computers and web-related installations use 20% of all California's power. How many of us, as we exchange email, post here, surf, trade on line, etc. realize how much we are contributing to global warming? Are we willing to give up our computers for one day a week? It would take a lot to persuade me to make that sacrifice, which 20 years ago didn't even count as a potential sacrifice. How about people turning off their TVs when nobody's watching them, or stopping using them as electronic babysitters and actually spending time with children or giving teenagers books to read instead of TVs to watch? It's the job of the administration to lead, and this one is failing dismally in the environmental area. But we also need to realize that the people are the ones who actually use the energy, or demand it from industry in the products we buy and services we demand. When are we the people going to take the initiative and just stop using so much energy? We could basically solve much if not all of the global warming problem by fairly simple lifestyle changes. But, I admit, I'm not standing in line to be the first to volunteer.