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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Kevin Rose who wrote (134709)	4/2/2001 3:16:19 PM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

Much better. Now, for some observations: First, in the table correlating gun sales and murder rates, the sales figures, and, more importantly, presumed circulation of drugs increases much more dramatically than the increase in murder rates. More than this, though, is the fact the one is quoting a difference of 1.6 per hundred thousand, or 0.0016 percent, a trivial change. Second, in the following table, as gun deaths are shown to go up, stabbing deaths, deaths by blunt objects, deaths by asphyxiation, and arson deaths are shown to go down. Perhaps that means that murderers are becoming more humane. In the third table, I am a bit baffled by the categories "unknown" and "other motives". Also, it asserted that 12% were related, and another 35% acquainted with their killers. This adds up to 47%. Then it asserts that only 13% of murders are committed by complete strangers to the victim. What happened to the other 40%? This sort of fudging leaves me suspicious. The correlation of handgun ownership and handgun murders is not there. Switzerland has about half the ownership rate, and about a quarter of the handgun murders. Canada is behind several countries in rate of ownership, but third in handgun homicide rate. Since they do not even attempt to show overall correlation in the last list, I assume they cannot. Well, not much there. But thanks for the try........

To: Kevin Rose who wrote (134709)	4/2/2001 3:23:37 PM
From: Thomas A Watson	Respond to of 769667

Dear Kevin, WOW all kinds of numbers. I wonder how all those number map. boortz.com there is 6.5 to 1 difference in murder rate between Gore country and Bushes country. Murder is the ultimate act of uncivility. So if number of guns is the factor, I guess civility has remained constant over the years. Or is it uncivil of me to suggest such a think. Ah yes the example of mr civil. Al Gore getting in the face of the soon to be President Bush at the beginning of the third debate. The 24x7 constant barrage of talking heads yelling over one another. Civility has remained constant. WWF civility has remained constant. The drug children of drug children of drug children, civility has remained constant. Martin Luther King Jr. to Al Sharpten, civility has remained constant. The NAACP drag behind death commercial. civility has remained constant. tom watson tosiwmeemc mr. civility. I don't think so :)