Silicon Investor (SI) -- The First Internet Community

STOCKTALK

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor. We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community. If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.

Politics : Formerly About Advanced Micro Devices -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: pgerassi who wrote (135530)	4/2/2001 3:48:08 PM
From: Scumbria	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1583954

Pete, conservation does not work Sure it does. When the price gets high enough, necessity becomes the mother of invention. Scumbria

To: pgerassi who wrote (135530)	4/2/2001 5:12:26 PM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1583954

Well, conservation does not work. California shows that even in the face of blackouts, the public refuses to conserve beyond a given point. Besides all of the easy conservation has been done, now it gets much tougher. They have yet to make up a lousy 2% or so. Just think of what they would have to do to make up 10% required by Kyoto. Pete, really? The conservation rate up here is over 10% and climbing. Of course, we have had a steady diet of rate hikes in the last 4 months. When CA feels some pain, they will conserve real well. And they know how to do it...they had to conserve water in the early 90's. ted

To: pgerassi who wrote (135530)	4/2/2001 11:22:11 PM
From: Dan3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1583954

Re: California shows that even in the face of blackouts, the public refuses to conserve... But that's just an illustration of the tragedy of the commons. Let's see what happens after rates are raised. There a fair amount of low hanging fruit when it comes to moderating energy use in California. People got real serious about conservation this winter in the midwest after natural gas prices tripled. Caulk a few corners, weatherstrip a few doors, don't use the stove during the day, and put some reflective film on the windows and peak electric demand driven by A/C needs can easily drop 10% - for this summer it's probably the only hope CA has of surviving. It takes too long to bring new generating capacity on line for much to happen in the next few months, but people (motivated by scary electric bills) have a shot at knocking that peak down by 10% - which might be enough. Regards, Dan