The rest of Richards' "Paid Basher" messages:
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Message 13850141
Scumbria... ;;Whatever Carl's motivation is, he brings more technical information to the thread than everyone else put together.;;
Is it good technical information? You know as well as I do that it is the accuracy and honesty of this information that is in question. All of the techies here are not in agreement with him. But then again why should they be, after all he has admitted to being a paid basher. While he now denies this by claiming he was just making a joke. I choose to believe his statement as fact... that he is a paid basher, and it all started with his very first bash in post #1032.
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Message 13826947
Yes Pat $2.80! How embarrassing to post something so silly as a $2.80 per trade system and then try to make up excuses after the fact for why he does it! He actually took pride in that and thought others on this thread trade for pennies. What a let down that must have been for him? And that part about, "I am a paid basher." Like that was a big surprise to anyone... give me a break!
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Message 14257125
happy henry... In your reply to mishedlo you quoted him as saying, "Something is up - we just can not see it yet"
You said, "In other words, buy now blind and hope.
Sorry, I disagree with this investment approach."
But aren't you doing the same thing? Blindly shorting on the eve of the IDF when you knew Intel was going to polish their brass this week? Did you think they were just blowing smoke?
There is much to be said pro and con about Rambus. But much that is being said against Rambus is coming from the very anti-Rambus patch, including an admitted paid basher.
In all seriousness, to wish you well in your shorting would be an obvious outright lie because that would mean I would in effect be wishing myself a loss. I do feel that at this point in time you have made a bad investment decision. Very bad timing. But you are right, it could turn in your favor at the drop of a hat. I don't know how many shares you are shorting and I don't care. But remember your potential loss is greater that your potential gain if Rambus continues to climb and you don't cover. Covering a short when a stock is going up or selling a stock when it is going down is psychologically hard to do. Because when you do it, you are in effect saying to yourself, "I made a mistake." People don't like making mistakes because they don't like blaming themselves for the results. That's why they keep getting in deeper and deeper because the can't bite the bullet. Personally I think there will be many shorts covering early tomorrow. I hope you don't have a large short position.
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Message 15301471
jim... About the "paid basher" part. I've really had that feeling for some time now. Especially when Scumbria, Bilow and Ali all get tuned in together to make Ram bust music.
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Message 15045407
Bilow... Re: Dave B... "... Funny that you would forget the facts that you yourself posted to the thread."
LMAO!!! How about... "I'm a paid basher!" One that you would like to forget about!
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Message 13849798
In case you all missed it... Anatomy of a Basher...
anatomyofbasher.netfirms.com
Excerpt...
"You are a:
Grade "A" Basher:
If you post lots of old news, respond to all positive posts with a
negative side. Never respond to being called a Basher, never
post on another board with same alias. Can spend up to 80 hours
a week Bashing a stock.
Grade "B" Basher:
Very good way with words, always claims to be your "friend" taking
the positive poster into confidence, never posts on another board,
spends about 60 hours a week.
Grade "C" Basher:
Spends less time than the others but is somewhat effective and
gets a C grade due to getting excited when Bashers rules say not
to get excited, spends about 40 hours a week.
Grade "D" Basher:
Needs to learn the basics about being convincing when making a
negative statement. Spends a good amount of time working the
stock, maybe 20 hours a week.
Grade "F" Basher:
A complete idiot, most readers are not convinced he knows
anything about stocks in general. The type that says a stock
"sucks", but gives no rationale, shows up every so often but no
regular schedule.
LEARN ABOUT HOW BASHERS WORK: For instance: did you know
that some Bashers are paid?"
How do you rate our thread Bashers?
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Message 13699360
No joke Halada. I've known for a long time he is a paid basher. Others have suspected.
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Message 13847909
Hi jim! I didn't realize how much money a paid basher can make. They make it on each response to their posts. That is why they try to get multiple replies. Make sure you read my post #47678 ANATOMY OF A BASHER.
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Message 13931700
Hello Pat... ;;I would be sick if I was him...;;
Pat it would be my guess that we will hear little from Bilow here after. If he was a paid basher (he said he was) then his job is now done. If he was not a paid basher then maybe he will return in time, but there is little that he can say that would offer any creditability. My guess is that while he was bashing Rambus he was also accumulating his hoard of shares. If you recall when he came out and warned the shorts NOT TO SHORT and claimed that he had seen the Rambus light, I knew something big was in the wind and I posted those feelings. I also posted that I thought Hitachi would be the next to crumble... they did. Good luck and I agree it is just the beginning!!!!
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Message 15227336
Mohamed... You are right. Sorry for taking up so much time with Scumbria. Nothing was achieved. He, Bilow, and Ali still can't believe that PC2100 doesn't work. It's broke beyond repair. Rambus is in control and leading the team. Scumbria's talking to himself... he doesn't know what his computer will or won't do. He locks it up in a closet to escape the noise. Gengus Khan (Ali) still believes Micron and AMD will pull through this mess, but sees visions of RDRAM AMD systems. Bilow is getting ready to short AMD but has no money... his $2.40 (two dollar and 40 cents) trading system didn't make him enough to get into play... in addition his paid basher's check was delayed.
Taking a rest. Maybe a glass or two of Merlot will set the pace when I return.;g;
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Message 13847686
jhq ;;ANSWER WHY YOU POST HERE SO FREQUENTLY.;;
From Anatomy of a Basher...
IGNORE THEM FOLKS...learn how professional Bashers are paid:
When you REPLY to Bashers you give them an opportunity to earn
appox. 5-7 dollars. The service agreement they enter into with their
employer states their messages will be monitored for content,
profanity, lies, etc. but Overseers and the like don't have the
time to check all their Bashers messages. Only occasional spot
checks are done. Those who manage the Basher will generally
read the headlines to see if a Basher is replying to other posters by
name. That tells them the Basher isn't just "posting blindly" or
repeating the same message over and over since they won't pay
for those.(True to form a Basher will put the bite on anyone, even
their unscrupulous employer). A Basher will attempt to milk three to
five replies per post at one to two dollars each. This way the Basher
spreads negative influence to as many stockholders as possible.
A Basher will create this discussion thread because it takes less
time reading more messages than is necessary. This ultimately
allows the Basher more time to post and make money. In general,
NEVER ENGAGE A BASHER. Make them read all the posts
and think up ways to enter the discussion.
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Message 13832541
visionthing, thanks for the Bilow post count. He sure likes to talk. Claims he makes a lot of small trades. When does he have the time? Certainly not while he is posting here. Look at his post to me... he took ten (10) paragraphs to give a lesson on investing. He could have reduced it to: Don't invest more than you can afford. Make your buy at the right time. Buy low and sell high! That would have done it. Instead I get a booklet of do's and don'ts! Only a paid basher would devote the time and effort to this thread that he does. There simply is no other reason. What he fails to realize is that by now we all now know him for what he is and represents and his posts now get very little mileage.
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Message 13832577
Bilow already admitted to being a paid basher. Lawsuits? I don't think he will have a problem there. But then again I'm not an attorney.
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Message 13856157
POST ABOUT BILOW AND PLUVIA ON YAHOO...
rsurckla: Pluvia & BILOW
by: h0db (40/M/Tysons Corner, VA)
6/8/00 6:54 pm
Msg: 103900 of 104228
Interesting how Pluvia showed up on the SI thread to defend BILOW, just as you and others were dropping the pretense of
humor and calling Bilow a paid basher to his face, using his own statements and Unclewest's findings.
It is common for paid bashers to work as a team. I notice that Ali Chen showed up today after a long absence. It could also
be one person using multiple identities.
You have to wonder who would be paying Bilow/Pluvia. This is not a typical P&D or shorting scheme--they are not, as far
as is evident, spamming dozens of message boards. I've detected no similar content here on Yahoo or on the Raging bull
board for example. Indeed, I think that Bilow/Pluvia and his masters really intend to affect the stock price. I think their goal is
to undercut basic acceptance within the industry, and to exploit any doubts they can.
There are potentially billions of dollars at stake here. Intel is effectively betting the company, or at least it's dominance of the
PC space, on RDRAM. It's actions over the past month--abandoning the MTH and moving to ship RDRAM RIMMs
directly with motherboards--tie it more strongly than ever before to Rambus. I think that Bilow/Pluvia's actions on the SI
thread are intended to shape attitudes and mindshare in the design community of Silicon Valley, not the masses. He has been
relentless on the SI thread, always harping on the theme "I know of no engineers working on RDRAM designs", even while
Intel, DEC/Compaq, Sun, Sony, and Panasonic have done exactly that.
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Message 15498475
There are some bashers on the boards deliberately misquoting a post by a FOOL POSTER. Here is one example: "Judge charges Rambus lawyers with crime-fraud:...", when in fact the poster said, "... I am VERY WORRIED about the judge's decision to invoke the "crime fraud" exception to the attorney client privilege:..." The poster went on to say, "Generally, a Judge has to make a finding that there is evidence of the "crime or fraud" before he can disregard the attorney client privilege and let this kind of discovery happen." And he went on further to say, "Of course, on the most recent docket entry, RMBS was granted a stay of that part of the judge's order, which means he's holding the ruling in abeyance and thinking about it a second time with rebriefing by the parties; however this could be absolutely HUGE in terms of the case.
Remember fraud charges were brought up by Infineon. The judge can't just dismiss these charges without seeing what evidence Infineon has. In effect the judge is waiting for the evidence to act on this issue.
The following will help you to better understand why Rambus will not be subject to this action...
firms.findlaw.com
The Crime/Fraud Exception To The Attorney-Client Privilege
Most communications between a client and an attorney are "privileged." This means that the attorney cannot be required to testify to what the client told the attorney or vice versa. Attorney-client communications in writing or stored electronically are similarly privileged in general. A major exception comes into play where the client hires the attorney in order to learn how to commit fraud or a crime or uses the attorney to do so.
No attorney-client privilege exists where a purpose of the consultation is "to commit or plan a crime or a fraud". Cal. Evid. Code §956. To uncover such nonprivileged communications, it is proper for an opposing attorney to quiz an ex-employee about the relationship between the employer and its attorneys. The fraud in question can include discovery abuses in pending litigation amounting to a "fraud on the court." Although there is no "fraud/crime exception" to a claim of attorney work-product privilege, the court may order work product to be disclosed if nondisclosure would result in an injustice by unduly prejudicing the innocent party. State Farm Fire & Cas. Co. v Superior Court (Taylor) (1997) 54 Cal.App.4th 625.
Cal. Evid. Code §956:
Services Used to Commit or Plan a Crime or Fraud
There is no privilege under this article if the services of the lawyer were sought or obtained to enable or aid
anyone to commit or plan to commit a crime or a fraud.
This case is discussed at 19 CEB Civ.Lit.Rptr. 169 (6/97). The authors repeatedly refer to the "disclosure of privileged information," but the salient point of the case is that there is no privilege to begin with. Thus, although it is usually improper for an attorney to seek out attorney-client communications from a former employee, it is good lawyering to do so where the communications involved are not privileged in the first place under §956. Taylor, 54 Cal.App.4th at 714 [attorney "would have been remiss in representing his clients had he not followed up on the contact with Ms. Zuniga", the former employee of State Farm]. State Farm’s alleged behavior in this case, by the way, was shocking.
Federal law is similar to the California rule. In U.S. v Chen (9th Cir, 1996) 99 F.3d 1495 criminal defendants were charged with conspiracy and tax evasion. Their scheme was to report the value of imported goods truthfully to the U.S. Customs Service, but to inflate these values on their income tax returns, thereby reducing their income taxes after the goods were sold at a profit. At some point, the Chens realized that the discrepancy between their customs forms and their tax forms might embarrass them. So they explained to their attorneys that they wanted the attorneys to communicate with Customs that they had under-reported their Customs duties and to pay the balance due. (The extra duties being less than the income tax, one assumes.) The lawyers, unaware that they were communicating false information, proceeded to write the customs officers as instructed and to pass along the client’s money for the "unpaid" customs duties. Since the clients’ purpose in communicating with the attorneys was to further their crimes of conspiracy and tax evasion, the attorney-client communications were outside
the privilege. As in Taylor, a former employee tipped off the other side. In general, it is not necessary that the attorneys know of the unlawful course of conduct or that they are being used in furtherance of such a scheme. The focus of the exception is on the client, not the attorney: "It is the client’s knowledge and intentions that are of paramount concern to the application of the crime-fraud exception; the attorney need know nothing about the client’s ongoing or planned illicit activity for the exception to apply." In re Grand Jury Proceedings (9th Cir 1996) 87 F3d 377, 381. See also, U.S. v Laurins (9th Cir 1988) 857 F2d 529, 540.
The crime-fraud exception also applies if the attorney, rather than the client, initiated the crime: "[I]f the trial court determines that the client was an active participant in criminal activity, the privilege is waived notwithstanding any assertion that it was the attorney who initiated that activity." People v. Superior Court (Bauman & Rose) (1995) 37 Cal.App.4th 1757, 1768, n. 4. [Note the misuse of the "waiver" language here. There is no "waiver" because there is no privilege to begin with.]
The leading U.S. Supreme Court case on the crime/fraud exception to the attorney-client privilege is U.S. v Zolin (1989) 491 US 554. In this case, the IRS, as part of its marathon investigation of the tax returns of L. Ron Hubbard, founder of the Church of Scientology (the Church), sought to enforce a summons it had served upon a court clerk; the IRS demanded that the court clerk produce documents, including two tapes, in his possession in conjunction with a lawsuit pending in state court . The Church objected that the attorney-client privilege barred the disclosure of the tapes. The IRS argued, among other things, that the tapes fell within the "crime-fraud" exception. The Supreme Court held that, in appropriate circumstances, "in camera" review of allegedly privileged attorney-client communications may be used to determine whether the communications fall within the crime-fraud exception. However, before the trial court may conduct an "in camera" review at the request of the party opposing the privilege, that party must present evidence sufficient to support a reasonable belief that such review may reveal whether to conduct an "in camera" review rests in the discretion of the trial court. The party opposing the privilege may use any relevant nonprivileged evidence, lawfully obtained, to meet the threshold showing, even if its evidence is not "independent" of the contested communications. (In this case, for instance, portions of the disputed tapes had been lawfully obtained from a former member of the Church and the IRS used those tapes to argue in favor of disclosure of the remaining tapes.)
Of course, the privilege remains intact if the client merely discloses past crimes to the attorney. It is only when the client is consulting the attorney in order to learn how to commit future fraud or a future crime--or is using the relationship in furtherance of an existing scheme involving fraud or a crime--that the crime/fraud exception comes into play.
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Message 15415350
Mohamed... I think it is just SI's TOU for which one could be terminated from the board. I don't see how there could be a legal restriction. I don't think a paid basher would make any difference. At any rate I think Kevin, I mean Scumbria, has already been exposed in the past. But of course he denies this.
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Message 15438003
RICO laws (RACKETEER INFLUENCED and CORRUPT ORGANIZATION). I wonder if an investigation covering RICO violations would include the possible collusion between paid bashers and the companies hiring them?
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Message 13880876
Cellhigh... The PAID BASHER'S HANDBOOK that a posted several days ago said that a paid basher will concentrate his efforts on one board and will not post on other boards with the same alias.
You'll find the info in the following:
anatomyofbasher.netfirms.com
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Message 13881276
cellhigh... A paid basher gets paid by the amount of post replies he receives. He is paid $1 to $2 per reply. A Good basher hopes to get 3-5 replies per post which converts to $3 to $5 minimum, and $6 to $10 maximum per post. If you look at Bilow's number of posts and the number of replies he is doing very well. Very much worth his efforts.
Edit: Or if you choose to believe, as some do, that he is just trying to help us!
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Message 13881888
GVTucker... You once said, "Given that I am apparently one of the only people on this board that is not an engineer, I tend to think in terms of things in a simplistic way, perhaps overly so."
That may be your problem... you just don't think deep enough. You know... like not seeing the trees for the forest. In your case not knowing how to identify a paid bashers and their agenda. Even after Bilow admitted that he was a paid basher you still refuse to believe it. You cannot accept this fact. So your feeble paranoia response means nothing if you cannot accept reality. And there are medications to help with reality, but I'm sure you are just one of those that believe Bilow is trying to help people... or are you? |
