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To: Kevin Rose who wrote (135093)	4/3/2001 11:20:26 AM
From: willcousa	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

Guess you will want to see the death penalty for that "monster" McVeigh. I suspect that monsters are mostly, born not made.

To: Kevin Rose who wrote (135093)	4/3/2001 11:35:24 AM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769667

There is too much anti- government paranoia floating around, but I would not tally McVeigh to NRA's list of faults, the Militias would exist without the NRA, which does not condone vigilantism. I cringed when people speculated about Clinton using Y2K turmoil as a pretext for declaring martial law, although there was not much of that around here. However, some amount of suspiciousness of government is as American as apple pie. We are supposed to worry about corruption and unchecked power. That is one reason we have political stability in this country, because we are watchful. We do not, in fact, rely on the police for defense. That is avowedly not their mission. There mission is the enforcement of laws that have been broken. They come on the scene when the horse is out of the barn. They do not act as bodyguards, or watchmen, and only minimally protect the citizenry with drive- throughs and such. Self- defense remains a right and even duty for every citizen, as they see fit. However, the main mechanism of defense is not to draw down, but the knowledge that arms may complicate the malefactors life. Criminals do not ordinarily like risk. As for foreign invasion, it is unlikely to come to that, of course, but not outside the question, and it makes for some lively movies. I do not think it factors heavily into the thinking of most people, even those who like guns.

To: Kevin Rose who wrote (135093)	4/3/2001 11:38:14 AM
From: jlallen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

Not quite. I carried a concealed weapon for many years because my work required me to carry large amounts of cash and negotiable instruments. On two ocassions I was glad to have been toting my weapon along with me,although I never had to fire it at anyone. There are reasons in this world such as mine and also others such as home protection for those of us who live in rural areas and many other reasons as well, why it makes sense still to allow individuals to own, possess and carry firearms. Those who espouse the whacko pro-gun rights point of view you mentioned are just as wrong as those who seek to totally disarm the civilian populace. JLA