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To: p40warhawk who wrote (322)	4/3/2001 4:32:53 PM
From: manfmnantucket	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 2462

pea fourty, by "value" I didn't mean "monetary value" , as in "valuable" I meant something more like "moralistic" - e.g., references to "good" and "bad" companies, and the implication that short trades are somehow inviting "disaster", and the notion that those who choose to endure the pain of losing lots of money are "strong hands" - what are those who choose to limit losses, weak cowards? There's merely profit vs. loss, and growth vs. shrinkage, and "valuation" is all perception based on those things - perception is entirely relative, there's no absolute formula that ties profit/growth to stock trading price, except after-the-fact when analysts invent ways to make rational comparisons between prices. And this distinction between "investors" and "traders" - loaded with moral/value judgement. In my mind, an investment a) benefits the company and b) has an ROI to the investor. By that definition, buying any non-dividend-paying stock is a trade/speculation, not investment. One's only hope is to resell at a different price and pocket the difference. So most self-described "investors" are traders, no matter how much emotion they attach to the act of purchasing stock. am I clearer? MfN