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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: rich4eagle who wrote (135228)	4/3/2001 10:14:57 PM
From: SecularBull	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

We can spy with our satellites. This mission was there to let the Chinese know that we still support Taiwan. However, after the DNC, I mean Clinton sold the Chinese some of our most classified satellite technology, perhaps our satellites are no longer effective. ~SB~

To: rich4eagle who wrote (135228)	4/3/2001 11:34:44 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

I don't think that the type of surveillance that we were doing is unethical. Nor would I think that the Chinese were unethical for using surveillance to listen to us. Listening to other people's conversations isn't usually polite, but if they are talking about your vital interests, you should listen. Going onto their private property and rummaging through their belongings is a different matter. No matter what, they have no business keeping our servicemen and women hostage. Ordinary human decency requires that they be well treated and sent home immediately. If you have not lived in the US for a long time, I suggest that you rent a video, "The Wind and The Lion." The great line in that movie is "We want Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead." We can't send in the Marines, as we did then. China is strong enough that any effort to rescue our hostages by force would likely cause their death. If we could be certain that military action would not endanger their lives, I think we would pursue it. So, we will pursue diplomatic action. It may seem weak to the Chinese, because they don't value the lives of their citizens. No matter. Whether our military personnel are released today, tomorrow, next year, or never, China will not go unpunished. American citizens are not disposable waste like Chinese citizens seem to be to their government. The cost to China is already more than can be calculated. If you don't see that, then you don't understand what the future holds. The other analogy I can use, that maybe you can understand, is what happens to a criminal when he kills a police officer. There is no stupider action. Chinese are not necessarily criminals and the US isn't necessarily cops - and maybe China is right, maybe the US needs China worse than China needs the US - but we are about to find out.