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To: Lane3 who wrote (10379)	4/4/2001 2:53:27 PM
From: jlallen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

LOL!! Maybe we weren't talking about the same post: Message 15613918 "I'm working hard to avoid the word, disingenuous". JLA

To: Lane3 who wrote (10379)	4/4/2001 2:57:28 PM
From: Neocon	Respond to of 82486

I do not recall anyone saying that being secular disqualified one from holding office, or specifically saying that morality comes only from religion. Of course, I have heard people extol religion as a bulwark of moral education (various Founding Fathers used to do that), and I have heard people express a preference for those with demonstrably similar viewpoints on social issues in certain offices, such as judgeships.......

To: Lane3 who wrote (10379)	4/4/2001 3:35:55 PM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

Is this the sort of thing you had in mind?: Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, Religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of Patriotism, who should labour to subvert these great Pillars of human happiness, these firmest props of the duties of Men & citizens. The mere Politican, equally with the pious man ought to respect & to cherish them. A volume could not trace all their connections with private & public felicity. Let it simply be asked where is the security for property, for reputation, for life, if the sense of religious obligation desert the Oaths, which are the instruments of investigation in Courts of Justice? And let us with caution indulge the supposition, that morality can be maintained without religion. Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds of peculiar structure--reason & experience both forbid us to expect that National morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle. virginia.edu This is from Washington's Farewell Address, and merely talks about the culture- forming character of religion.......