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To: Joe NYC who wrote (35032)	4/5/2001 10:44:29 PM
From: Petz	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Joe, re:<I believe that Northwood is supposed to be selling in Q4> I remember that Intel's roadmap three months ago had a 0.18 version of the P4 which was supposed to have the larger number of pins like Northwood. I'm beginning to wonder whether there is something wrong with the current P4 interface (socket 423) and its ability to support SDRAM. I checked back with a Y2000 roadmap from tomshardware.com, and back in those days the Brookdale chipset was supposed to be available early Q3 and it was going to support the socket 423 (current) 0.18u P4. In the next revision of the roadmap, (see www6.tomshardware.com ) Brookdale only supports the Northwood 0.13u 478 pin P4, not the current version and it is pushed back to September. I think VIA decided not to make a chipset for the 423 pin P4 at all, which is why they say it is ready, but they are waiting until Q4 to release. There were also rumors back then that VIA would have a chipset in Q2 that supported the 423 pin P4, but now VIA is waffling and saying that their chipset won't appear until Q4. If you were VIA, would you design a chipset for a platform with less than six months of life left? It would be a reincarnation of the KX133, which lasted three months, even though VIA probably thought it would work on Socket A athlons. The long and the short of it is this pleasant fact for AMD shareholders: Pentium 4 will not have SDRAM chipsets from either VIA or Intel until the 0.13u version of P4, the Northwood, comes out. Maybe SiS or ALi will try an SDRAM chipset for the "P4 original," but I doubt it. And I don't believe Intel can convert a significant amount of their output to 0.13u until 2002. And when these chipsets DO come out, they won't initially support DDR. I vaguely remember that Intel was supposed to have a 478 pin version of P4 available about NOW on the existing process. I remember people saying that the 423 pin socket would only last six months. Well, maybe Intel cancelled the 0.18u version of Northwood because of pressure from OEM's, but there is a side effect that there will be no 3rd party chipsets until Intel gets to the new socket in Northwood. Also from Tom's ( www6.tomshardware.com ) November 2000 roadmap: Intel is planning Pentium 4 processors at 1.7 GHz or more for Q1/2001* already and Q2/2001 is supposed to be the time when the first 2 GHz Pentium 4 will see the light of the world.* And then there's those darn Palomino's... Petz