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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: cosmicforce who wrote (10602)	4/6/2001 1:00:01 AM
From: The Philosopher	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

The Chinese don't need to fly up and down our coast. We have an open society -- they can go anywhere they want to except actually onto military bases. But they can get a lot closer to our bases than we can to theirs. They involve themselves in our political process, giving to certain candidates (illegally, but that doesn't seem to bother them) and getting all sorts of favors, information, technology, etc, in return. Their students come to our universities and get highly sophisticated training in our most advanced technologies--universities supported in large part by tax dollars and charitable giving. They have spies in our most sensitive establishments. No, they have no need for the crudities of staying a hundred miles offshore and trying to figure out what we're up to.

To: cosmicforce who wrote (10602)	4/6/2001 10:40:56 AM
From: TimF	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

I'm not completely sure of the facts, but either they rammed our plane deliberately, or (IMO more likely) they recklessly came to close to our plane and caused an accident. The fighter in this situation is pretty much under control. It has the speed, manuverability and (if it wants to use them) the weapons. The fighter could fly more then twice as fast as the E-P3. If we did have Chinese planes flying off our coast we probably wouldn't like it but we would not react in the same way. As long as they stay in international waters we would probably have fighters in the area, and maybe have them intercept the plane but if a collision did occur and the Chinese had to land in the US we would not keep them hostage. Tim