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To: RON BL who wrote (135954)	4/6/2001 1:51:06 AM
From: Kevin Rose	Respond to of 769667

I could also make the argument that the moon is made of grey poupon. You can make an argument about nearly anything. That doesn't make it true. The ACLU, with its flaws, fights primarily FOR the freedom of speech. I don't recall any ACLU position that is fighting for the removal of crosses from the graves of our soldiers, literally or figuratively. As for the school system making white and male feel evil, I must have missed that class, and my kids must have. Must be a new class. However, I believe that schools are now trying to put some reality into the ciriculum. The reality is that Indians were treated like garbage, as were slaves and black people. Race riots, slave revolts, Indian uprisings, etc, are all testiment to this reality. I think the problem is that previous generations were shown too many movies with John Wayne-type heroics and twisted hero plots.

To: RON BL who wrote (135954)	4/6/2001 4:56:34 AM
From: Andy Thomas	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

--Many a white male child today is made to feel evil for being both white and male by the school system. It happens all the time. -- that's sort of a generalization but i would tend to agree. in any event 'they' are playing a game of 'divide and conquer' and european males are one of the scapegoats of this era. while 'white' males are demonized, 'white' females certainly are popular with most everyone. but that's the way it's always been; it's always been about males of one group eliminating all of the males of another group. from what i see, to at least some extent white males are the 'odd men out' of this era. an honest man will tell you that eliminating the competition (other males) is the ultimate goal. a pakistani told me once, 'andy if you lived in pakistan, people would really like you. besides, they like lighter skin. here in america it's dark skin which is popular.' it's odd to hear other people saying, 'whites run everything' while white males themselves lack this sense of being, 'in control.' having said that, it's always easier to blame other people than to look in the mirror and accept personal responsibility and to realize; 'i get what i deserve... and i'm no different than those other bastards.' in conclusion, i realize that, 'you get what you deserve' is blasphemy in this, the temple of kindergarten statism. even the buddhists have to couch that 'ugly reality' in terms like, 'cause and effect.' ..but here are the lyrics in any case: Crawling in this pathos I don’t know where to begin Except to say that there may be such a thing as sin At some point in your life no matter what it is you do You will receive what it is you are due Remembering the thoughts that I controlled the ones that still make me cringe Thinking if there were some way to do it all again Maybe I would spend less time worrying about you And spend it being repentant ‘cause you get what you are due As far as I can tell there are no innocents in this world Not even the sweetest, gentlest, most loving little girl Somewhere within every mind lies the underlying chaos It’s just that some can block it out while to others it is obvious At some point in your life even if you think you’ve lost Everything you wanted and then you’ve paid the cost A wise woman once whispered and these words I heard No matter who you are you get what you deserve andy