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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: The Philosopher who wrote (10631)	4/6/2001 12:21:43 PM
From: cosmicforce	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

I was in China 15 years ago and that is exactly what I did. Did you ever try? [Edit: I'll admit that we were "encouraged" to stay on the tour and it was very orchestrated. But there was no prohibition of the kind you describe.]

To: The Philosopher who wrote (10631)	4/6/2001 12:41:50 PM
From: cosmicforce	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

What a lot of people forget is that WE precipitated the Cuban Missile Crisis by placing nukes in Turkey (not very far from the Soviet Union). We were asked to remove them and when we didn't the placement of missiles in Cuba was a retaliatory act. As I said, if I sit across from you feigning blows to your nose, conducting military exercises off your coast, arm and subsidize a break-away province that is just off your coast, all of these could easily be construed as provocative.