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To: Rajala who wrote (97069)	4/6/2001 6:31:26 PM
From: samim anbarcioglu	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 152472

>>discredit the person who expresses an opposing opinion. .....Long live Marxism! Are you really this stupid or do you just enjoy sounding like one ? What Zhang has to say about his perspective of the accident is fine, but there are specialized boards for that. That's just what Frank said. There is no discrediting anything in that. What's your problem?

To: Rajala who wrote (97069)	4/6/2001 11:19:13 PM
From: timblair1	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 152472

Rajala, you've shown us once again what a dilettante you are. Discrediting the person rather than the opinion has nothing to do with Marxist methodology. It's standard operating procedure in any propaganda. Save us from your psuedo-intellectual blatherings. On another point, it's been assumed from your eurocentric commentary that you must subsist somewhere in the Old World. But recent readings of your posts indicate an unusual awareness of some of the more peculiar aspects of American culture. (How would such a sophisticate as you know of such a low brow magazine like Guns & Ammo?) It wouldn't be a surprise at all to discover that you're an American with a blind allegiance to European telecom technology...someone who might work somewhere in the bowels of AT&T Wireless, for example. Cloaking yourself as a native of the Third World with the pretense of being cultivated by European exposure makes for an interesting alias. Unfortunately, it has done nothing for your credibility. Your comments are inane. And that's too bad. Because as a follower of this thread, I think there always could be a place for another voice here.

To: Rajala who wrote (97069)	4/7/2001 8:43:39 PM
From: ggamer	Respond to of 152472

Dear Rajala Ujala Dejala Ejala Print the following news clip and stick it above the computer you use to preach your european technolgy. I am sure more to come when the service ACTUALLY starts: BT GPRS data services hit by glitches Friday 6th April 2001 6:00pm Users of BT's GPRS high-speed data service have been experiencing persistent problems with network availability. Several early adopters of the technology have contacted silicon.com to report faults in BT's services. The way the networks treat GPRS traffic is at the heart of the problem. Data over current GPRS networks takes the lowest priority, so in busy areas at times of peak demand, users have reported serious problems putting data calls through. Ben Wood, analyst at consultancy Mobile Lifestreams, said: "The only ways round this would be to dedicate a channel on the network solely to GPRS, or to prioritise the packets over the network. Both of these would be extremely expensive in terms of network resources. "The two 1800 networks - Orange and One2One - will probably suffer less from this as they have more capacity on their networks," he added. BT Cellnet and Vodafone both use the 900 MHz waveband. Vodafone launched its GPRS networks on Monday, and Orange is expected to launch GPRS in the summer. Peter Lisle, GPRS programme manager at BT Cellnet, said:"We monitor the success rates of both voice calls and GPRS, so we can regulate the balance of network quality to maintain the quality.We do have a strategy of reserving timeslots for improving access for GPRS. "We have a dedicated customer care facility and we take customer fault reports very seriously. In quite a lot of cases we find that the problem is on their network, not ours. I have more than 100 organisations using GPRS and this is certainly not a universal issue," he added. BT Cellnet launched its Pocket Net Office service for businesses in July 2000, but the long delay before the launch of GPRS services has led to speculation that technical problems with the network and handsets have forced BT to delay offering GPRS to consumers. In February, silicon.com reported on the problems many users were having with the billing system for GPRS calls, which charged them at the normal rate for a voice call when they slipped into coverage "holes". Rumours of phones overheating have not been substantiated, but GPRS users have had trouble with short battery life. Technical problems and delays with GPRS will worry a debt-ridden industry hoping for quick returns from the next generation of data services on 3G networks. GPRS is widely seen as a proving ground for the applications which will induce consumers to spend money on 3G services. silicon.com.