<font color=red>Palomino and Hammer</font>
Planet 3DNow! meets AMD Germany
19:11 - Author: Nero24
Public relation manager cent ral Europe, January Guetter, was to be granted so friendly to us for one hour of audience and patiently all our quaengelnden; -) To answer questions. Some information surprised us nevertheless very much! But read best even:
Topic K6-2+
Why the K6-2+ so popular with Upgradern (with stress on the " plus ") not at final customers, but only at Notebook manufacturers it was delivered, had two reasons. On the one hand AMD sees the Duron as Low Cost solution for the Desktop market and thus with the base A a uniform platform. On the other hand the capacities would directly not have fairly, the K6-2+ on a large scale than Upgrade PCU for base 7 boards to marked out, since these would have had somewhere to be taken off differently. Furthermore it does not become a solution nVidia of driver problems concerning the K6-2+ (the detonator this CCU detects only as " MMX compatible " and not as " K6-3DNow! ") more give, neither from AMD, nor of nVidia, there the overlap in the mobile area K6-2+ (Low Cost) and GeForce 2 Go (High ending) is practically existent and it itself is not worth to sacrifice resources for it.
Topic Thunderbird
Surprised we listened January to Guetters words, the Thunderbird core still to 1500 mc/s are up-floated, to at least 1400 mc/s in " B " version (200 mc/s FSB). **time-out** the surprise us nevertheless very much, go out one nevertheless generally of out, that the 133ér the last Thunderbird be will. In the course its are manufactured to center of the yearly all Thunderbird cores in Dresden and thus on copper base (at present approx. 90%). Austin will dedicate itself in the future exclusively to the Duron, which also in its new edition, which Morgan will be manufactured, further in aluminum. Furthermore we took pleased to the knowledge that the base momentary A will be current still at least two to three years, there AMD for the 32 bits rail neither to modifications about the base, nor at the signal (one remembers the Push Pull history with the Slot A TBird) plans.
Topic Palomino
The first Athlon that the Palomino core in itself carries, as 153ér in the third quarter 2001 will appear supposed. The modifications Thunderbird - > Palomino are insignificant thereby! Beside some small Goodies, on which we may not report at present yet (concerning not the performance!), the Palomino an improved Branch Prediction unit is received and hardware Prefetching to support. Furthermore the core on fewer power input is trimmed and thus on smaller heat development. Both the so-called " supersilicon ", how also a longer pipeline (" we found with the K7-Pipeline the optimum and thereby will remain ") referred and naturally also SSE(2) January Guetter into the area of the Web fables! The Palomino will run on all present base A Main board, which supports 266 mc/s (= 133 mc/s GDR) FSB, since it will give the Palomino exclusively as 266 mc/s version.
Topic hammer
Equal the next surprise: the hammer family, AMD's coming 64-Bit CCU, is not a new development, which developed proverbially on a " white page paper ". In the hammer are substantial sections of the present K7-Designs, which was only extended by 64 bits registers and a few additional instruction and in addition a hand contains fully server-specific things, which are at present not yet message ripe. Despite that extremely relationship with the current Athlons does not approach the hammer bases A CCU, but a new platform will get, like addressed already above then at least still two years parallel to 32 bits the rail (Palomino, Thoroughbred, etc..) will run. By the way it is not safe also yet whether the hammer is really gotten SSE2. AMD has the license for it acquired, decided is however still nothing! In each case however the hammer becomes still 3DNow! support. To appear the PCUs Claw and Sledgehammer is in the first half-year 2002.
Topic over clocks
Despite the innumerable user, which buy today Athlons and Durons due to their outstanding Overclocking characteristics, wants to spare no effort AMD of everything only Erdenkliche not to integrate in the future if possible a degrees barrier which can be cracked into the CCU. The background is clear: only Degrees Freaks, which can with their CCU privately make, what they do not want, the potential behind it detected, but also cunning dealers, who put a cheaper 900er into the housing and which on 1000 mc/s over-clocked deliver instead of a Athlon 1000 times evenly. There are then stability problems with this system drops back black Peter naturally to AMD and that wants the Texaner in any case to avoid. Oh: the Palomino, which we hold in the hand, but unfortunately not to photograph, had L1 bridges was allowed, on still does not test-cSam-polarize was even connected * ggg *. however still is not all days evening: - /
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AMD's Palomino and Hammer Processors (AMD)
Posted By Brian Neal
Friday, April 6, 2001 - 4:07:14 PM
Thanks to j for posting about this interview with AMD's Central Europe Public Relations Manager, Jan Gütter, at Planet 3DNow!. The interview discusses AMD's upcoming Palomino processor, among other things. While much of this information is not new, it does help to put to rest some of the rumors floating about. Here are the highlights:
Palomino
Available in Q3 2001
Hardware Prefetching
Improved Branch-Prediction Unit
Unspecified Improvements/Changes
Starts at 1533 MHz
No Isotopically Pure Silicon
No SSE2
No Longer Pipeline
No New Socket Required
Clawhammer/Sledgehammer
Athlon Core Derivative
SSE2 Support Uncertain
As you can see, Palomino's feature list is nothing out of the ordinary. According to the interview, the chip will start at 1.533 MHz in the third-quarter with hardware prefetching and improved branch prediction, among other things.
The interview also indicates that the upcoming 64-bit Hammer core is little more than an Athlon derivative with 64-bit extensions. This conflicts somewhat with previous reports that the Clawhammer and Sledgehammer processors would be based on a new 8th generation architecture. It also seems that the inclusion of SS2 has yet to be decided upon, even though AMD states they do have a license for it. Once again, very interesting.
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