To: grinder965 who wrote (97094 ) 4/7/2001 5:42:09 PM From: quartersawyer Respond to of 152472 Grinder, - I think what he really meant is... I'm pretty sure he's hoping the European operators can run something vaguely resembling a sober course leading to CDMA as near to the immediate future as possible, including a short-lived GPRS upgrade, which IJ also referred to as a "no-brainer" for their networks. totaltele.com Your 9++ issues are well-taken. w-CDMA, without Qualcomm oversight of development, is certainly not ready now in Europe or anywhere, and it's not impossible that it never will be. When DoCoMo says they want to bring out 4G by 2007 instead of 2010, I hear them regretting their whole decision-making process. Some great writer (Dos Pasos?) called the work of all those incompetent managers "the wringing of small hands". The problem with those nine issues you listed.... only items 4, 5 and 9 involve rational decisions along the way. The elements leading to all the rest are tangled in junk that's at best political in nature, although it poses as economic. The manipulation of the operators and milking of consumers is clear: the government of Japan has been trying to break NTT's stranglehold; even the Finns now say they won't extend the time limits for Nokia's engineers to get off the pot and get their country moving into 3G. But China, Europe, Korea, Latin America... and everywhere GSM is still being installed or w-CDMA specified... represent technologically unsound decisions, if in IJ we can trust. So most of those honest questions of yours have forked answers. Personally, I've never looked for a total Qualcomm victory because of the risks involved in a moon shot. I don't want a devastating defeat of the European carriers and banks. I just want my HDR, Q chips in Nok plastic, and my first $10 billion out of Europe. Regards from Chappaquiddick Island