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To: Seeker of Truth who wrote (97123)	4/8/2001 9:20:07 AM
From: marginmike	Respond to of 152472

in all those situations it was USA finance and equiptement they were all using. Without US Industrial contribution Germany would have ruled the roost.

To: Seeker of Truth who wrote (97123)	4/8/2001 11:58:21 AM
From: timblair1	Respond to of 152472

If the Europeans, namely, Britain, the USSR and France could've dealt Hitler his due without U.S. participation, I'm sure there would've been many American families who would have thanked God that their sons and daughters had been spared the carnage. (As for UK acting on a matter of principle, seems like I remember a guy named Neville Chamberlain who didn't do any of us any favors.) But that's not what happened. Europe's soil is soaked with American blood, along with the blood of thosse whose lands were besieged. In spite of a tendency to be isolationists, Americans today have to yield to the call of history pointing to the need for an international presence. And that's why we have planes monitoring the increasingly sophisticated Chinese military and their expanding naval fleet.

To: Seeker of Truth who wrote (97123)	4/8/2001 1:32:25 PM
From: gingersreisse	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 152472

It's difficult, perhaps, to expect people who approach an issue from significantly different perspectives to agree on a common conclusion from a disputed set of facts, as in the case of China's claimed 80 mile limit on airspace and the US intrusion on that claim. Over the next few weeks the situation will undoubtedly play out. It is reasonable, however, to assume the Hitler-Stalin non aggression pact of 1939 gave each party what it needed, and without it World War II would have been much different. Hitler received the green light to invade Poland and Czechoslovakia without fear of the Russians. Stalin took Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia, and a part of Poland. With the agreement still in force, Hitler later took Denmark, Netherlands, Belgium and France. The absence of a "second front" made the western campaign much easier. It's a risk to assume people of a different background will respond the way "we" think they should to a specific circumstance. China is no different... GSR