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To: sandintoes who wrote (216)	4/8/2001 11:50:10 PM
From: KLP	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 2279

The unfortunate thing is that he probably believes the propaganda he writes...take a look at www.amazon.com and put his name in....then go to google... If anything at all happens to our Military held in China...we can point our fingers to "people" like this...there are some in other places on earth that might be naive enough to think he has some credibility...

To: sandintoes who wrote (216)	4/9/2001 6:36:07 PM
From: GROUND ZERO™	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 2279

That liberal moron has never had a taste of war; and they're all over the place..... GZ

To: sandintoes who wrote (216)	4/22/2001 11:53:00 PM
From: jbn3	Read Replies (6) \| Respond to of 2279

Before we all begin an "anti-Chinese" campaign, let's review some facts. a) The plane that was damaged and forced to land in China was a reconnaissance plane. More bluntly, a spy plane. b) It was spying on the Chinese. It was attempting to discover and determine what military capabilities they have. c) It may have been over international waters at the time of the incident. But that does not mean that it did not violate Chinese air space previously, on this flight or another. One of the standard tactics of this type of spying is to deliberately violate the target country's air space in order to determine the location, type, and speed of response. d) We are told that the crew was successful in destroying highly sensitive classified equipment and materials = spy stuff. e) This is merely another example of the same type of thing that occurred when Gary Powers and his U2 were shot down over the former USSR back during the cold war. f) When a Cuban pilot defected with his MIG, did we return them both intact? No, we took that plane apart, nut by nut, and bolt by bolt, to see what its capabilities were. g) Remember the outrage in this country a year ago when Dr. Wen Ho Lee, a scientist of Chinese extraction, working at the Los Alamos nuclear laboratories was accused of spying for China, turning over nuclear secrets to the Chinese? A charge that later turned out to be false? This innocent man was shackled hand and foot whenever he left his cell, and kept in jail for nine months. Were our service members treated any worse than that? They were not, yet who had a greater degree of comparative guilt? Whatever happened to the "Golden Rule"? We were spying. We deliberately provoked the Chinese. We got caught. We are embarrassed. And we would treat that crew and that plane no better and hopefully no worse if the situation were reversed. I do not consider that grounds for a major anti-Chinese campaign. If it is wrong for Cain to slay Abel, how can it be right for Abel to slay Cain? I admire the pilot's ability to land the damaged plane, and the entire crew's bravery in such adversity. Still, that does not constitute grounds for us to play lemming for any mountebank or spinmeister. Just some thoughts. jbn3